I have been waiting to see your think about it. Yeah my thoughts exactly, I would hate to see a reboot or alternate telling, or a movie that invalidates of Expanded Universe works. I am cool if they adapted works certain like obviously The Thrawn Trilogy. Though at the same if they choose to adapt The New Jedi Order, it would feel essentially a reboot because they feature a whole new cast with the previous one as supporting characters.

Thank you sir...someone ELSE agrees with me that Thrawn would be best played by Hugo Weaving. ::Claps::

I should rather see a new script based off some of the expanded universe and first two trilogies. No prophecies, histories and mention of eighty bagillion dark lords. No Lowbacca. I really didn't like the Thrawn trilogy. Ysalamiri, no thanks.

However, it might be set years apart from the Vader trilogy where it pick up during times of the New Republic. They could create entirely new characters in the Skywalker/Solo family. There is really no telling.

@sesquipedalophobe said:

They could create entirely new characters in the Skywalker/Solo family. There is really no telling.

That, right there, falls in the third category.

@JediXMan: What do you think the odds are in telling a story of the Old Republic and the rise and fall of Exar Kun?

It was already said that the newer movies will NOT be based on the Expanded Universe.

@JediXMan: I hope they do Thrawn Trilogy as well, it would fit perfectly with the series. Dark Empire would be amazing as well. It saddens me that they'll probably disregard all of EU canon...

@CaioTrubat said:

I have been waiting to see your think about it. Yeah my thoughts exactly, I would hate to see a reboot or alternate telling, or a movie that invalidates of Expanded Universe works. I am cool if they adapted works certain like obviously The Thrawn Trilogy. Though at the same if they choose to adapt The New Jedi Order, it would feel essentially a reboot because they feature a whole new cast with the previous one as supporting characters.

Interesting, and yeah, I've been wondering why I wasn't hearing anything from JediXMan about this for a little while now.

@JediXMan said:

For those of you who don’t know, I was caught up in hurricane Sandy a bit. Thankfully, I am safe, and all I lost was Internet access for a few days – no big deal. My heart and prayers go out to those who have suffered and actually lost stuff during the hurricane.

Let me just say from the start that I didn’t believe this was true. Now, while working in the aftermath of Sandy, I heard from somebody I know that Lucasfilms/arts was bought by Disney, and that they intend on making new Star Wars movies. Without any way to verify the claim, I kinda brushed it off as a rumor without giving it much thought... then I log on and I see countless people talking about it and my inbox full of comments. I could no longer ignore this as a rumor. So here we are.

Honestly, my first initial fear was the idea of “rebooting” the series. I don’t have an inherent hatred for remakes, as long as they are done well. The problem with Star Wars is that it is different from other sagas in that it is continuous. It tries to be one single story, not many different universes or timelines or whatever. That is one of the things that really intrigues me about the Star Wars universe. Yes, there are retcons – and I cringe at almost every one that occurs. It’s unnecessary for such a clear-cut system, and it smacks of lazy writing and miscommunication – or stupidity. Could be a combination thereof.

The idea of an “original” Star Wars story set in the time frame this probably will be set in sends shivers down my spine, and not the good kind. But for all we know, it’s “original” in the way that “Lucas didn’t write it.” And I will be the first to say “GOOD” when anything Star Wars is not made by Lucas. Yes, I’m a Star Wars fan who dislikes Lucas – deal with it.

Honestly, there are two stories that I would love to see turned into a movie, and it would be very easy: The Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire. Both would fit into the “Episode VII” timeline with ease. Anything else would be... wrong. Just wrong. I would prefer the Thrawn Trilogy. Why? Because it would be totally different from what we’ve seen before! No Sith! And no, C’Baoth isn’t a Sith. It would be a good way to hit off the new era of Star Wars! Also: Hugo Weaving as Grand Admiral Thrawn. Make it happen, Disney!

There are a few possibilities that I have considered:

Best case scenario: Adaptations of EU material, thereby validating all of the EU entirely.

Lukewarm scenario: Original story, does not fit into the EU, and is a completely separate level of continuity that doesn’t change any established canon. Call it D-Canon or something. M-Canon; whatever.

Worst case scenario: Canon original story, making the EU non-canon. This would probably make me throw my hands up in defeat and walk away entirely.

The answer is, yes, I will see the movie when it comes out, because I feel some sort of misguided obligation to do so. It could be a piece of trash and I will still see it, just like I played the Force Unleashed and watched the first season of the Clone Wars (just the first season). And I will review it – count on it.

First off, glad you're safe, and I think you've nailed it on the spot. Another thing is, I'm afraid that Disney might just make a bad movie and turn people off from Star Wars even more than some already bad content has, such as the Clone Wars show. I'm not sure what's worse, a bad movie that fits in with the EU and doesn't invalidate it, but it just sucks majorly.. Or a story that invalidates the EU and makes their own Disney Star Wars Universe (DSWU?). What do you think?

@minigunman123:

I want the EU secured at all cost, essentially. Well, parts of the EU at least.

Yeah! Another JediXman review-thing. These are always so great to read.

Glad to read this, and I agree with you. The status of the EU is of more concern to me than these movies themselves. An issue I have is that should Disney disregard the EU, chances are, there will never be a new canon class to separate Disney's canon from EU canon. I would prefer if they did, but I doubt Lucasfilm would handle it this way. I also have to wonder which parts  of the EU would be retconned. If Disney ignored the EU to produce original stories that contradict it, would that discard all of the EU or just Post-RotJ EU? For instance, what happens to the Rise of the Empire era? Or the Rebellion era? Hard to say.
 
The problem is mixed messages being sent. Some sources tell us that Lucas' original drafts for Episodes 7, 8, and 9 will be the basis for Disney's films. Lucas himself, however, said that he would hand over all Star Wars media to Disney for use in their films. There are other articles wherein the writer claims they have sources directly in Lucasfilm who said definitively that the plot for Disney's movies will be original, which is to say not based on EU stories or Lucas' drafts. But those sources were never cited, and the writers of these blogs tend to be obscurantists. It's not that I doubt they could be true, because it very well could be (and probably is) the case, but no article I have read has been very forthcoming about that. In any case, I believe it is still far too early to dogmatically argue that the EU will be thrown out, especially since, in the event that Disney writes original stories, that does not automatically retcon EU. For all we know, it could mean that their stories will interpose themselves into the EU, not remove EU continuity altogether. Could Disney retcon out the EU completely? Sure. Will they? We would be better off not appealing to ignorance. If and when Disney publishes the statement "Star Wars Expanded Universe is finished," then we can start being conclusive about it. And hopefully, that statement is never released. 
 
EDIT: One other thought I had pertains to the fact that EU stories are still currently being released. What does that insinuate? Does it mean that EU stories will continue to be released until Disney's movies are released, at which point the EU could change or be removed? Or will the EU persist regardless? Again, difficult to say right now. We have too little information, and this is still too early in the developing stages.

I liked the comics but wouldn't bother me if they decided it wasn't cannon.

I'm pretty sure they will just ignore the EU

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I'm pretty sure they will just ignore the EU

I feel the same way. At the end of the day, the studios are just going to do what they want, even if that includes building on the events that happened in the last movie.

I had all the same exact thought immediately after hearing this. Except, I also think they could have possibly done something with the Old Republic most likely about Revan, but who knows what they will actually do.

Galen Marek film! Make it happen! Feed the trolls and Starkiller fanboyism! Do it Disney! Do iiiiiiit!!!!!!! Nyahahahahahaha!

I say they should make a completely dark serious Star Wars movie. But with the Disney characters playing the parts.

@Silver2467:

It could be that the Disney films will be linked with the current films, completely separating G-canon and C-canon altogether. Meaning, EU material will still come out, but it will be treated as a different universe/timeline.

That, again, would piss me off.

@JediXMan said:

Yes, I’m a Star Wars fan who dislikes Lucas – deal with it.

From what I can tell, most Star Wars fans dislike Lucas.

As for the Lucasfilm/Disney business, I think I'm mostly optimistic about it. Disney knows how to make movies and they know how to let other people make movies (i.e. Pixar and Marvel). If nothing else, maybe we'll finally get a proper DVD/Blu-ray release of the original, un-specialed trilogy. The new movies I'm not so sure about. The main Star Wars continuity has become such a mess that I'd rather them just set it far enough in the future that we could just start over with other characters. The prequels were more than enough to make me tired of that era of Star Wars, and the multiple series didn't help matters.

The EU is something I'm also wary of dealing with. I'm sure there's some good stuff in there, but from what I hear a lot of it is also blatant power-creep for Jedi and Sith, and Palpatine clone shenanigans that would make Spiderman shake his head in despair.

@JediXMan said:

@minigunman123:

I want the EU secured at all cost, essentially. Well, parts of the EU at least.

Have you watched "Star Wars: The Clone Wars"? They seem to be perfectly fine with changing canon, and the third scenario is looking hella likely atm.

@TheCowman said:

@JediXMan said:

Yes, I’m a Star Wars fan who dislikes Lucas – deal with it.

From what I can tell, most Star Wars fans dislike Lucas.

As for the Lucasfilm/Disney business, I think I'm mostly optimistic about it. Disney knows how to make movies and they know how to let other people make movies (i.e. Pixar and Marvel). If nothing else, maybe we'll finally get a proper DVD/Blu-ray release of the original, un-specialed trilogy. The new movies I'm not so sure about. The main Star Wars continuity has become such a mess that I'd rather them just set it far enough in the future that we could just start over with other characters. The prequels were more than enough to make me tired of that era of Star Wars, and the multiple series didn't help matters.

The EU is something I'm also wary of dealing with. I'm sure there's some good stuff in there, but from what I hear a lot of it is also blatant power-creep for Jedi and Sith, and Palpatine clone shenanigans that would make Spiderman shake his head in despair.

Wait, why dislike Lucas (besides the fact he sold his franchise to Disney)? The prequels? The prequels, IMO, really weren't the worst thing in the universe... I don't know why people hate them so. :/

Also, I've decided to start reading some Star Wars. I've mostly been into reading HALO, as far as reading sci-fi fiction series' goes, but Star Wars has piqued my interest again. I started reading the Truce at Bakura or whatever, the one where the Yuuzhan Vong are first encountered, but got a little bored with it. Is that a decent book to read for my first EU book?

@Silver2467:

It could be that the Disney films will be linked with the current films, completely separating G-canon and C-canon altogether. Meaning, EU material will still come out, but it will be treated as a different universe/timeline.

That, again, would piss me off.

The EU is something I'm also wary of dealing with. I'm sure there's some good stuff in there, but from what I hear a lot of it is also blatant power-creep for Jedi and Sith, and Palpatine clone shenanigans that would make Spiderman shake his head in despair.

@Silver2467 said:

@JediXMan said:

@Silver2467:

It could be that the Disney films will be linked with the current films, completely separating G-canon and C-canon altogether. Meaning, EU material will still come out, but it will be treated as a different universe/timeline.

That, again, would piss me off.

At least the EU would still exist under that scenario though. Besides, in one sense, the EU already is a separate universe to a degree. After all, while G-Canon may be part of the EU, EU is not part of G-Canon. So the two are linked but still disparate.

Well, there are some C-Canon elements in G-Canon. But you have a point.

Well, there are some C-Canon elements in G-Canon.

@Silver2467:

Of course they would. In fact... wasn't there a Star Wars comic coming out next year that would basically take place during the OT, completely ignoring the EU altogether? I read that.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they actually made one last novel series ending with the giant restart of the universe.

I can see SW is dear to your heart but I'm more of a casual fan so I am excited about new movies and comics. No way Disney would spend over 4 billion dollars and ruin a franchise, especially considering how sucessful their other franchises have been, they're a gold mine. Also, SW related rides at Disney too!

And going by this article it looks like they have an awesome person behind the comics.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/07/12/brian-wood-star-wars-dark-horse-comic-con-sdcc-2012/

@Silver2467 said:

@JediXMan: I knew there would be a new Rebellion series, but I had no reason to believe it would ignore anything. Do you have a source?

Heh. Well, if Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor is to be trusted and Luke's philosophical insight into the Dark is correct (which it is), the universe would restart after the Dark consumes it... But that would be an incomprehensibly long period of time into the future. Not that that would stop Disney or anything.

I don't.

Let me rephrase, because I was in a rush at the time that I posted: it wasn't going to flat out ignore the EU. To be specific, it would be written with the mindset that the only thing created was the first Star Wars movie; no Empire, no Jedi, and Leia is not Luke's sister. It's completely of the idea that the writer is creating it before 1980. I must say that the idea - purely as a non-canon Infinities - is incredibly interesting to me. I'd read it. I have no problem with Infinities on occasion; I might even be able to enjoy TFU if it were created with that idea. Same reason I read What If? comics sometimes or the Ultimates.

@JediXMan: Nicely said sir.

@JediXMan said:

@Silver2467:

It could be that the Disney films will be linked with the current films, completely separating G-canon and C-canon altogether. Meaning, EU material will still come out, but it will be treated as a different universe/timeline.

That, again, would piss me off.

Certainly. I don't know why people are suggesting the EU becomes N-Canon because the Disney films have nothing to do with it.

@ShootingNova said:

@JediXMan said:

@Silver2467:

It could be that the Disney films will be linked with the current films, completely separating G-canon and C-canon altogether. Meaning, EU material will still come out, but it will be treated as a different universe/timeline.

That, again, would piss me off.

Certainly. I don't know why people are suggesting the EU becomes N-Canon because the Disney films have nothing to do with it.

That is, unfortunately, one possibility that must be considered, however. I am preparing myself for the worst here.

@JediXMan: Well, yeah. I'll make do if the EU suddenly becomes non-canon, though I'll still love it. Regardless, I sincerely hope that is not the case.

Let me rephrase, because I was in a rush at the time that I posted: it wasn't going to flat out ignore the EU. To be specific, it would be written with the mindset that the only thing created was the first Star Wars movie; no Empire, no Jedi, and Leia is not Luke's sister. It's completely of the idea that the writer is creating it before 1980. I must say that the idea - purely as a non-canon Infinities - is incredibly interesting to me. I'd read it. I have no problem with Infinities on occasion; I might even be able to enjoy TFU if it were created with that idea. Same reason I read What If? comics sometimes or the Ultimates.

@Silver2467 said:

@Xanni15: Thanks for providing a link.

@JediXMan said:

Let me rephrase, because I was in a rush at the time that I posted: it wasn't going to flat out ignore the EU. To be specific, it would be written with the mindset that the only thing created was the first Star Wars movie; no Empire, no Jedi, and Leia is not Luke's sister. It's completely of the idea that the writer is creating it before 1980. I must say that the idea - purely as a non-canon Infinities - is incredibly interesting to me. I'd read it. I have no problem with Infinities on occasion; I might even be able to enjoy TFU if it were created with that idea. Same reason I read What If? comics sometimes or the Ultimates.

Xanni posted a source. No trouble. It is an interesting narrative decision; I just wonder about how it will play out. However, if that series is, as you earlier suggested, being written with no regard for previous EU stories, I doubt that on its own would signify an intended retcon within EU canon. There are still other comic series being published in the same time frame that acknowledge EU continuity; so unless those other series will end once Disney's movie is created while Rood's series continues, that might not be especially indicative.

Well, the Star Wars series I mentioned also ignores the prequels and the other movies in the OT, so I highly doubt it will be canon at all. Just another Infinities, which is fine with me.

There is the possibility that we'll get a retcon similar to the new 52. They kept making comics up until that point, too; some with unresolved plot points.

@ShootingNova said:

@JediXMan: Well, yeah. I'll make do if the EU suddenly becomes non-canon, though I'll still love it. Regardless, I sincerely hope that is not the case.

It becomes non-canon, I don't know what'll happen. I might still enjoy it, but I say this: I will give up debating Star Wars characters altogether. There will be no point, and it will become unbearable against fanboys.

@JediXMan: Ditto. At least I can debate other things. Though hopefully, they will have enough respect to leave the EU be. And possibly allow for more EU. I highly doubt it's canon class will be promoted, rather, degraded.

@Silver2467 said:

Xanni posted a source. No trouble. It is an interesting narrative decision; I just wonder about how it will play out. However, if that series is, as you earlier suggested, being written with no regard for previous EU stories, I doubt that on its own would signify an intended retcon within EU canon. There are still other comic series being published in the same time frame that acknowledge EU continuity; so unless those other series will end once Disney's movie is created while Rood's series continues, that might not be especially indicative.

Apparently, it doesn't have too much regard (or none at all) for previous EU works, but I'll be fine as long as the EU doesn't die and become non-canon. I'll just stop debating, most likely. Because there's few here that even acknowledge the EU, once it becomes non-canon the fanboys will just rush so hard it'll be impossibly to hold them back.

Well, the Star Wars series I mentioned also ignores the prequels and the other movies in the OT, so I highly doubt it will be canon at all. Just another Infinities, which is fine with me.

There is the possibility that we'll get a retcon similar to the new 52. They kept making comics up until that point, too; some with unresolved plot points.

@ShootingNova said:

@JediXMan: Ditto. At least I can debate other things. Though hopefully, they will have enough respect to leave the EU be. And possibly allow for more EU. I highly doubt it's canon class will be promoted, rather, degraded.

So can I, but I enjoy debating Star Wars.

@JediXMan: Of course I do as well. Also, it'd be sad for Silver, having accumulated so many sources and quotes and all.......

As a possible answer for your guys' dilemma of potentially no longer debating SW threads if the EU is retconned: All you really have to do is make sure the TC specifies the version. If they use what will then be Disney's current SW, then leave. But even if the EU is no longer canon, it's not as if that version can no longer be used in a thread, and if a TC stipulates that version, you can still debate it.

@Silver2467 said:

As a possible answer for your guys' dilemma of potentially no longer debating SW threads if the EU is retconned: All you really have to do is make sure the TC specifies the version. If they use what will then be Disney's current SW, then leave. But even if the EU is no longer canon, it's not as if that version can no longer be used in a thread, and if a TC stipulates that version, you can still debate it.

I know that, but as said above, a majority of the guys in here don't acknowledge or know the EU. Or seem to be a bit.... wild.

The others who do acknowledge the EU rarely make any battles, let alone SW battles. Additionally, generally, the OP doesn't even specify, meaning non-canon versions can't be used. So I'm hoping that isn't the case......

Thanks for the help though.

I think Star Wars fans should set their blasters to low expectations.

@Silver2467 said:

As a possible answer for your guys' dilemma of potentially no longer debating SW threads if the EU is retconned: All you really have to do is make sure the TC specifies the version. If they use what will then be Disney's current SW, then leave. But even if the EU is no longer canon, it's not as if that version can no longer be used in a thread, and if a TC stipulates that version, you can still debate it.

Possibly true. Though again, the "new standard" might become Disney. We'll see, I guess.

@isaac_clarke said:

I think Star Wars fans should set their blasters to low expectations.

I think Star Wars fans have been conditioned (beaten) into that mode.

@JediXMan said:

I think Star Wars fans have been conditioned (beaten) into that mode.

Come to think of it, this is entirely too true.

Informative. Awesome blog is awesome.

P.S Sandy wasn't a hurricane.

@PunkMastaFlex said:

Informative. Awesome blog is awesome.

P.S Sandy wasn't a hurricane.

Hurricane Sandy.

It did get downgraded, but it was originally a hurricane.

@JediXMan said:

@PunkMastaFlex said:

Informative. Awesome blog is awesome.

P.S Sandy wasn't a hurricane.

Hurricane Sandy.

It did get downgraded, but it was originally a hurricane.

^ I never knew that (Sarcasm). Aside from this, informative (Broken record ol' me) blog. ^^

@PunkMastaFlex said:

@JediXMan said:

@PunkMastaFlex said:

Informative. Awesome blog is awesome.

P.S Sandy wasn't a hurricane.

Hurricane Sandy.

It did get downgraded, but it was originally a hurricane.

^ I never knew that (Sarcasm). Aside from this, informative (Broken record ol' me) blog. ^^

Well, pretty much everybody, including Red Cross relief efforts, are calling it "hurricane Sandy," so... yeah.

Anyway, thanks.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I'm pretty sure they will just ignore the EU

I feel the same way. At the end of the day, the studios are just going to do what they want, even if that includes building on the events that happened in the last movie.

FOUND IT!!!