@b4tm4nish3r3: Them being old does matter, like I said its like using silver age superman feats. You can read what I said to MuyJingo above because I essentially have the same thing to say to you. I have given tons of instances of batman not being threatened by penguin or the types of threats he posed, including one that is just batman telling penguin what to do and Oswald listening because he can't challenge batman in no mans land. That's an excuse you made for penguin. "Penguin was busy". Sure dude. If all these instances I mentioned in comics aren't proof enough then I guess I cannot meet your ridiculous standards of what evidence should be. If all those times I mentioned from comics aren't good enough for you, then so be it, but I know that I defended my opinion and that my argument isn't incredibly poor at all. Everything I've said I've supported with instances from comic books.
I brought up batman killing to show you how dumb it is of you to use old scans from penguin to try to prove anything about him. You fail to show me how he is a threat or challenge today. Fifty years ago sure but not anymore.
And yes bane can be crappy sometimes but bane broke batman physically and mentally. Something penguin has never even come close to doing.