Scott Lobdell Should Be Fired

Simply put...DC is letting him RUIN one of their flagships. First Superman...now Action. Action Comics 22 was one of the worst comic books I've ever read. So there. Comment below.

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Edited by Blood_Red_Rage

Lets start a riot!

Posted by Jake Fury

The Queen Bee arc with HIVE was utter rubbish.

Posted by TekTheNinja

i agree.

just look what he did to starfire.

Edited by SupBatz

Two words: Teen Titans.

Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie

Yay! Rant thread! :D

Posted by rest_in_peace_Ted_K0rd

lodbell is a abomination to dc he should go right for marvel his crap would fit in with all the other crap that they publish do you know what should happen dc and marvel should make a trade lodbell for mark waid

Posted by Bierschneeman

Rabble rabble rabble rabble.........

Posted by Xwraith

@rest_in_peace_ted_k0rd: He already wrote for Marvel 20 years ago. He was actually picked to be the successor to Chris Claremont.

Posted by Dabee

What I've read of his work, I have thoroughly enjoyed. H'el on Earth is one of my favorite crossovers I've read involving Superman. Scott Lobdell has written tons of great stuff that has sold internationally to thousands and thousands of fans. All you've written is something saying you hate him.

Edited by RDClip

If not fire, then just put him on a book no one cares about and if he wants to write Supes, he can work on the digital comic. Though I would argue that his work on Teen Titans is way way worse than his work on Superman.

Posted by IronFanofSteelofThunder

@dabee: Alright Ill admit he's written good stuff in the past...but the majority of his most recent work is terrible. I don't hate HIM I'm not allowed to, I'm Christian. And ofcourse he sells copies...anything with the words "Superman" or "X-men" is going to sell. But he doesn't understand Superman and the issues after H'el (who was never actually explained in more than what could have been a lie to Supergirl who was being manipulated anways) On Earth in Superman and in Action have been AWFUL. My OPINION is this: He's bad with Superman. I do, however, think Martian Manhunter deserves a stand alone and I think Lobdell would be good for it. MAYBE.

Posted by The Stegman

@supbatz said:

Two words: Teen Titans.

It has been the consistently worse title in the New 52. Seriously, I hate Lobdell's third person omniscient narrator too.

"He is Superman,Earth's champion, with his incredible eyes he can see atoms as they split, stars as they burn out and fade away, yet why couldn't he see what was right in front of him??"

seriously, no one writes like that anymore >_<

Posted by MrMiracle77

I made it through two issues of Teen Titans, then experienced that awful wonder of dying a little inside when I realized I couldn't keep that book on my pull list when there were so many better options.

He isn't a bad writer, but there is a gap between DC and Marvel that only some fans can traverse.

Posted by ULTRAstarkiller

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

Posted by Yokergeist
Posted by BlackArmor

@supbatz said:

Two words: Teen Titans.

NO! Don't say those words, calamity strikes whenever they are spoken, babies cry at their very mention, dogs run in front of cars whenever they see the logo! Those words have been sullied by Lobdell's pen, once they were pure, now they are the words of the beast.

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Edited by Reactor

Maybe I have weird tastes, but I cannot comprehend the colossal hate for Lobdell. He's not my favorite, but he's far from the worst. I haven't really read Teen Titans, so I can't speak for that, but so far, I've found his Superman run to be enjoyable and likable. I also enjoyed the most recent AC release. Maybe there's a higher standard I don't know about since I'm not as deeply engrossed in the comic world as some, but people seem to go out of their way to dub him the antichrist of comic books, and it seems really disproportionate to the work I've seen from him. At least recently.

At least that's how I've been seeing it. Not sticking up for him or anything, just my opinion.

EDIT: That, and for reasons I won't bother to relay, I also don't trust users that start rant threads but have less than 30 posts behind them.

Edited by JediXMan
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Posted by PeppeyHare

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

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@peppeyhare said:

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

Yeah, his reaction to a negative fan review video was to insult the reviewer instead of responding to the criticism

Edited by IronFanofSteelofThunder

@reactor: Heeeeey just because I'm new here doesn't mean I can't start a rant thread. I read the rules!!! Haha. And...I dont think anyone actually read my thread. I never said I hated him and I never said he was a bad writer. I simply said I don't like him writing Superman because he doesn't seem to understand him. And yes...there are MUCH higher standards to Comic books. I may not have 30 posts, buuuuut I've been reading comic books since I discovered Earth in the early 90s. I can tell you that Scott Lobdell is a good writer. But his style is not suited for Superman. Read Kingdom Come, Superman Earth One, and For Tomorrow. THOSE are ways Superman can be accurately depicted.

Posted by Killemall

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

Posted by JediXMan

@peppeyhare said:

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

Yeah, his reaction to a negative fan review video was to insult the reviewer instead of responding to the criticism

Do you have a link?

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Posted by FadeToBlackBolt

@blackarmor said:

@peppeyhare said:

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

Yeah, his reaction to a negative fan review video was to insult the reviewer instead of responding to the criticism

That's the go-to move for a few current writers. Slott does it. Remender tells detractors to "drown in hobo piss".

Notice the trend?

(Hint: they're all terrible at their jobs)

Posted by BlackArmor

@jedixman said:
@blackarmor said:

@peppeyhare said:

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

Yeah, his reaction to a negative fan review video was to insult the reviewer instead of responding to the criticism

Do you have a link?

It was a while back, I'll try to find it

Posted by PeppeyHare
Posted by BlackArmor

@jedixman said:
@blackarmor said:

@peppeyhare said:

@jedixman said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Someone tag him he has a profile on here lol.

He does?

Yeah he does. He's pretty awful about interacting with people.

Yeah, his reaction to a negative fan review video was to insult the reviewer instead of responding to the criticism

Do you have a link?

http://www.comicvine.com/tim-drake/4005-9290/forums/update-tim-drakes-origin-in-teen-titans-0-698004/

Thanks that would have taken me forever to find

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Posted by PeppeyHare
Posted by M3th

SPITE thread.

-m3th.O.D.-

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@ironfanofsteelofthunder said:

@reactor: Heeeeey just because I'm new here doesn't mean I can't start a rant thread. I read the rules!!! Haha. And...I dont think anyone actually read my thread. I never said I hated him and I never said he was a bad writer. I simply said I don't like him writing Superman because he doesn't seem to understand him. And yes...there are MUCH higher standards to Comic books. I may not have 30 posts, buuuuut I've been reading comic books since I discovered Earth in the early 90s. I can tell you that Scott Lobdell is a good writer. But his style is not suited for Superman. Read Kingdom Come, Superman Earth One, and For Tomorrow. THOSE are ways Superman can be accurately depicted.

That was Post-Flashpoint Superman. This is New 52 Superman. If the characterization of DC's characters were all exactly the same, then it wouldn't be a reboot, just the same universe with a new paint job so to speak. You may prefer the older depictions (personally love each of the comics you listed) but that's not to say Supes is currently inaccurate personality-wise. He's a new person, which means a different personality and he's going to be written to respond to situations differently.

You wouldn't hold it against Earth One or For Tomorrow for not characterizing Supes the same as he was during the Silver Age, or during the 90s Dark Age. So why do so now?

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@ironfanofsteelofthunder said:

@reactor: Heeeeey just because I'm new here doesn't mean I can't start a rant thread. I read the rules!!! Haha. And...I dont think anyone actually read my thread. I never said I hated him and I never said he was a bad writer. I simply said I don't like him writing Superman because he doesn't seem to understand him. And yes...there are MUCH higher standards to Comic books. I may not have 30 posts, buuuuut I've been reading comic books since I discovered Earth in the early 90s. I can tell you that Scott Lobdell is a good writer. But his style is not suited for Superman. Read Kingdom Come, Superman Earth One, and For Tomorrow. THOSE are ways Superman can be accurately depicted.

For Tomorrow was totally out of character.

Just saying.

Edited by Bierschneeman

@peppeyhare, @jedixman, @blackarmor

I clicked his name... he only has 33 forum posts so at first I thought... TROLLLL!!.... but go back and read them..they are evenly spread out, and most have him thanking people or giving pretty good answers to their questions, even informative to "THE FUTURE"

buuuttt... everynow and then he has a moment where he insults an insulter... or isn't quite even... (and ohh.... The Mess' video... was a bit condescending to begin with... not evenly soo either...) im not defending Lobdell. (the soap comment was just plain wrong...) but some of us have a hard time taking it on the chin. I don't fault him for feeling insulted and responding in kind. .....tooo much

ohh go and read his first post... whether you like Lobdell or hate him... you'll find it enlightening

so yeah, I am convinced he is the real guy, buuuut... theres still room for him to be a troll.

Posted by dondave

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

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Posted by Squalleon

I don't believe he is a bad writer considering his influence on the 90s Xmen and RHATO (which both i haven't read so i might be wrong) but i think he should take projects that are based on his strengths, Superman definetely isn't one of them.

Edited by Lvenger

But seriously, his Teen Titans and Superman runs are incredibly poor and derivative IMO and are not the slightest bit fun to read whatsoever. I wouldn't mind it if Lobdell goes from DC in the slightest.

Posted by CheeseSticks

It's not just him, DC is screwing up with all these new origins

Edited by toptom

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

@dondave said:

@killemall said:

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

This. Of course we can have a better writer, but nobody seems to remember how the superman's title was before him...both new 52 or pre-52. He has actually improved the title.

Posted by DecoyElite

@toptom said:

@killemall said:

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

@dondave said:

@killemall said:

Well i am totally in the wrong forum because i honestly enjoy his writing.

This. Of course we can have a better writer, but nobody seems to remember how the superman's title was before him...both new 52 or pre-52. He has actually improved the title.

Subjective. But then again so is the anti-Lobdell case.
Personally I couldn't care less I just want the dude to stop attacking people online for not liking his stuff.

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Posted by JetiiMitra

Haters

Posted by TDK_1997

He has the worst runs in the New 52 along with Liefeld's Hawk & Dove and some other really bad books.But his Teen Titans is one of the worst things right now along with his current story arc for Superman called Psy Wars which is just plain ridiculous and stupid.Only his RHATO run was kinda good but I prefer the current Tynion IV's work more.

Posted by theTimeStreamer

he sucks but he has a contract. whatcha gonna do? teen titans is dead because of him. did you know he introduced artemis in an issue only to be killed after 1 page? one of the issues part of the culling.

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