Battle of the unbeatables

Ok so these guys are beatable, but they are all definitely the strongest there are in there fight class 
 
Here is the situation everyone of them has been given a bio of all of the powers of the person they are fighting.  
This is a Battle Royal kind of fight they are all in the same area and an equal distance from each other and can not attack till all of them have read through the bios.  
They are all at full power and have access to all of their powers (w/exception of Midnighter's Doors) and all of their regular gear.(w/exception of Noh-Varr who does not have the Nega Bands
Morals are off for the few that have them, no BFR, when by KO or Death.  

The Unbeatables 

 Midnighter 
Karate Kid 
Cassandra Cain
Noh-Varr 
Fantomex 
Daken  
Batman 1 Million 
Iron Fist 
Gorgon 
Omega Red 
  
 
I do not want to see just *someone wins* I would like to see arguments. These are the top tier a reason for why someone wins would be appreciated and if possible back you argument up with scans.

if you know anyone else like these guys let me know and I will add them to the fight.    
34 Comments
34 Comments
Posted by Zubinen

Batman One Million takes this. It's essentially a Batman in God form...

Posted by hydrabob
@Zubinen: could he take a hit from a near if not above 100 ton striker like Iron Fist? 
or a hit from something that can destroy skyscrapers like Noh-Varr's gauntlet? 
or beat Gorgon while avoiding his stone stare?
Posted by SC

Noh-Varr FTW. If he has knowledge on people, I am sure he can take out the dangerous ones fast with his white run mode and flippin hell, the dude has explosive finger nails, and super acid spit! lol

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Posted by Lance Uppercut
@hydrabob said:
" @Zubinen: could he take a hit from a near if not above 100 ton striker like Iron Fist? 
Wha-?
Posted by hydrabob
@SC:  I love Noh-Varr too, but I don't think he has a healing factor and Omega Red's Death Spores would probably chew him up. I kinda see his white Run as being really similar to Midnighter Battle computer so they could offset each other.
 
I'm starting to think this is to tough of a fight to really choose one person. Some of them seem to people over come some abilities, but I don't think any of them can overcome all of them.
Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut:  What? You don't think Iron Fist can put a 100 tons of force behind a punch
Posted by Lance Uppercut
@hydrabob: If he could hit with over a hundred tons of force, he wouldn't keep Luke Cage or needed Fat Cobra to do his heavy lifting for him. 
Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut: not saying his strength is a 100 tons, but when he uses his chi his he has taken down some big things like the Helicarrier
Posted by Lance Uppercut
@hydrabob: That seems absolutely ridiculous. 
Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut: why?
Posted by Lance Uppercut

If he could consistently strike people with over a hundred tons of force, then he'd literally have no need for anyone that he hangs around with. He could punch a hole through Luke Cage at that point. Back during the Immortal Weapons series, he would have creamed half the people he fought just by hitting them in the jaw. That literally goes against every established power level the character has ever shown. 

Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut: so where would you gauge his iron fist?
Edited by SC
@Lance Uppercut said:

" If he could consistently strike people with over a hundred tons of force, then he'd literally have no need for anyone that he hangs around with. He could punch a hole through Luke Cage at that point. Back during the Immortal Weapons series, he would have creamed half the people he fought just by hitting them in the jaw. That literally goes against every established power level the character has ever shown.  "

 
Oh, with Danny, he can only do that once. After that he is a sitting duck. So basically Iron Fist* always get like one big Hulk punch in any fight, but it weakens him, so in this battle, he'd have to chose wisely... it'll be funn since the other characters know, will be like Lotto!  (lmao Iron Man? What the hell am I on...)
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Posted by SC
@hydrabob:  His finger nails explode! I dunno man, deaths spores, meth whor... uhm, that rhyme sorta came out odd. I gotta figure Hulking is more durable than Ω Red, so and not that they are the same, but Noh-Varr could probably turn his pain off long enough to take out Meg Red, push in, and then pull out and get out of there.  
 
Good point though, plus yeah, will be a hard win for any of them, and depend on relying on other people taking each other out as well. 
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Posted by Lance Uppercut
@hydrabob: -shrugs- I couldn't give an approximate number, but most certainly not 100 tons.  
 
@SC said:
" @hydrabob:  His finger nails explode! I dunno man, deaths spores, meth whor... uhm, that rhyme sorta came out odd. I gotta figure Hulking is more durable than Ω Red, so and not that they are the same, but Noh-Varr could probably turn his pain off long enough to take out Meg Red, push in, and then pull out and get out of there.   Good point though, plus yeah, will be a hard win for any of them, and depend on relying on other people taking each other out as well.  "
Eh, Red is pretty durable, and so is his armor. He's taken shots from Colossus and even restrained him. I don't see Noh-Varr lasting against his life drain abilities either.
Posted by hydrabob
@SC: well Red has been hit by Colossus numerous times and shrugged them off and been stabbed by Wolverine and just laughed about. I don't think his finger nails could pierce Carbonadium. The only thing Varr has is his gauntlet and the Cosmic Bullets, if he got everybody in the same spot he could take them all out at once with that probably, but I think that would be difficult to pull off.
 
yeah I could see Fantomex taking out a lot of these guys, but the ones that he couldn't take couldn't handle the people that he could.
Posted by SC
@Lance Uppercut:  Oh, i only know of him (Ω Red) doing that after draining him, thus increasing his own durability. Colossus was being dumb in that instance. Noh-Varr's suspicious ways and prep with bio info should let him bypass that with pure speed. Taking out majority of Young Avengers and Runaways in like 5 seconds, thats speed.  
 
Good point too, of course, won't be easy. 
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Posted by Lance Uppercut
@SC: That would require Colossus to be dumb in several instances.  
 
Sure, he's fast, but the Young Avengers and the Runaways aren't exactly a crack team. Their teenagers up against who's better trained, better equipped, and a better all around fighter. 
Posted by SC
@hydrabob: Colossus applies blunt force. I believe the best Arkady has done against Colossus, when Colossus foolishly got close enough for Red to drain him, and then after that he was able to smile at Wolvie stabbing him, after powering up for Big C. On the other hand, Rogue has thrown him around way back when, and he has a lot of weaker showings as well. 
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Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @SC: That would require Colossus to be dumb in several instances.   Sure, he's fast, but the Young Avengers and the Runaways aren't exactly a crack team. Their teenagers up against who's better trained, better equipped, and a better all around fighter.  "
Noh-Varr had none of his gear when he fought them and also had a scientist screwing up his mind when he fought them
 
@SC: Red has also taken hits from RPGs and pretty much giggled about it, I kinda see the armor being his protection from the hits not the life draining though it does increase his abilities. I don't think Noh-Varr has a big enough punch to do enough damage. I brought up the RPG because that pretty similar to the explosion in Noh-Varrs fingers, though Noh-Varr could spit on him
Posted by Lance Uppercut
@hydrabob: Better equipped doesn't necessarily mean better equipment. In this case, better training, better tactics, and better abilities. And sure, he was being mind controlled. Doesn't mean it impacted his fighting ability. 
Posted by hydrabob
@Lance Uppercut: Well he could have done his White Run longer if the guy wasn't holding him back
Posted by SC
@Lance Uppercut:  Very dumb in that instance. Wolverine was pissed IIRC, Colossus basically powered up Arkady lol. I agree with Young Avengers and Runaways being inexperienced, but I doubt Omega Red could take them out as fast No-Varr did. His White Run is extremely cheap. 
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Posted by SC
@hydrabob: Red is under bullet proof durability where he isn't armored. If Varr is faster enough, he should be able to stick a few nails in his face and Ka-Boomz. All over red rover!  
 
LOL, yes, indeed, spit. Best fight tactic ever!  Okay cool peeps, I am going to go eat a burger! All this talk of exploding nails and spit has me hungry!
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Posted by Lance Uppercut
@SC:  It's not like Origins was the only instance. He'd done it before. And no, Red couldn't do it as fast simply because he doesn't have superspeed. What he has however are reflexes fast enough to comprehend and block multiple bullets at point blank range and the strength to restrain Noh-Varr, and the durability to take his hits. Gorgon is another contender against Noh-Varr considering he's tagger speedsters before. 
Posted by hydrabob
@SC: Noh-Varrs Spit

 Noh-Varr's saliva has nanotechnology in it, which it can cause him the ability to alter someones mind, making them see or think what he wants

Posted by SC
@Lance Uppercut: You mean with Red? I was referring to Uncanny Boss, I essentially agree though oh, and Arkady has pretty decent reflexes, but I can't recall him doing anything that could prove he could handle the White Run evasive wise (of course he has his other things to account for though,m like you say, durability etc). Gorgon would be a boss here. Does he have his sword? I wasn't ruling out anyone. I was hoping whatever character I picked Hydrabob would hate. Turns out he actually likes Nph-Vah.. I have to re-strategize...  
 
@hydrabob: lol i know, but its cooler for me to think he just spits at people like us normal folk... 
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Posted by hydrabob
@SC: nope Noh-Varr is awesome, Love everything about (except when he became the Protector did not like that). Yes Gorgon has his sword
Posted by SC
@hydrabob: I agree, if I wanted to read a story about a guy called the Protector, I'll hire out the Tony Jaa movie.... alternatively, if I wanted to read about a guy in a black and white suit with red highlights I'd stab an emo and then uh.. read his diary...?  
 
Are the other guys allowed to gang up on Gorgon and then steal his sword? If I would imagine if Iron Fist Iron Fisted Gorgon's sword, its velocity should be enough to penetrate Omega Red! Realistically its the only outcome of this match I think that would naturally occur. Fantomex will hold it steady while Danny powers his chi up to slam it. 0_o
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Posted by hydrabob
@SC: no they are not allowed to work together, multiple people can fight each other at the same time though. If someone takes down Gorgon they can use his sword same goes for any other gear.
Posted by SC
@hydrabob:  So lets say hypothetically, one of them beats Cassandra Cain... are they allowed to take their clothes off... and then put her clothes on... ? Also if Daken is taken out, are people allowed to shave his Mo-hawk while he is unconscious? Trust me, this is leading up to a valid point?  
 
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Posted by hydrabob
@SC: Hahahaha I don't know how those are related, but yeah read could hit people with other people
Posted by DedmanWalkin

Fantomex wins here, his misdirection allows him to use everyone against each other wearing them down so he can take them all down. He can pulls his misdirection on omega level telepaths so no one save Batman 1 Million should be able to resist it. His nanoactive blood will protect him from death spores and pheromones. 

Posted by hydrabob
@DedmanWalkin:  the only thing I know his nano tech blood does is make him unable to see anything being greater than himself. Has Fantomex ever shown to do misdirection to more than 5 people at once. I haven't see a whole from him and am trying to get an idea of the characters power limit