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#1  Edited By hushicho

It is still murder. The act was still committed, whether or not the victim involved returned from the grave. They were dead at one point, and they were so directly because of the actions of the villain in question. That was the villain's intent, which is important: they intended to cause lethal harm to their victim, and they did. The fact that said victim returned to life after being dead doesn't invalidate that act of murder.
 
And in most of the cases that you've mentioned, they are serial killers who have shown absolutely no remorse whatsoever. To be more realistic, I scarcely think characters like the Joker would not be put to death by sheer demand, due to the fact that they inevitably escape sooner or later, and someone always dies because of it, at their hands.
 
In any case, yes, it still is murder or at least manslaughter, depending on what the lawyers can wrangle.

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#2  Edited By hushicho

This is, in a word, crap.
 
The Wayne Foundation was one thing that was initially made to combat social ills that Batman couldn't help with, and Batman wasn't so reluctant to be in the spotlight. That made sense as an organisation.
 
Essentially this is just undermining the whole point of the character though, not that there has been any integrity to him since his senseless retcon in the mid-80s that threw everything out of whack.
 
Gotham City and its characters need a serious reboot. Damian is the worst character possibly ever developed in comics. Dick is a pathetic Batman, and he shouldn't be expected to take up the role. He should be his own person, not the inheritor of a legacy he has long since divorced himself from (or been divorced from, if you read Chuck Dixon's garbage). Barbara turning into Oracle not only didn't make sense, but the graphic novel in which her injury took place that forced her down that shoehorned-in plotline was never meant to be taken into continuity. It's insulting that her capability as a crime-fighter and a positive political force, as well as a strong female protagonist, was completely disregarded from the mid-80s Bat-retcon and after.
 
Bruce Wayne as a character is utterly FUBAR and should have stayed dead, if they were going to bother to kill him off.
 
If you're going to have a public Batman presence, you might as well go more towards the presence that existed in the late 70s and early 80s, which were some of the finest Batman stories I have read. He wasn't as 'out in the spotlight' as in the mid-to-late 60s, but he was clearly known and yet maintained his intimidating presence.
 
This is just yet more nonsense with yet more poor writers who are so caught up in their own egos and name recognition that they forget comics are more about actual writing quality than just names, names, names.

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#3  Edited By hushicho

It's more of the same typical nonsense where they do something to get people outraged and get some headline but don't think about the rest of the characters who depend on the one character. This isn't the first time it's been done to Wonder Woman, either -- the original Crisis on Infinite Earths decided to undo Wonder Woman as an afterthought, and it was for a reboot which, while well-done by Perez, could've been much better-handled. As it was, it completely FUBARed Donna Troy and more than a handful of other characters, whose continuity relied on Diana.
 
The costume change is just an attempt at a shock to surprise everyone. It's stupid to change the costumes so drastically of icons, because their costumes are part of their iconism. Their costumes are one of the most identifiable things about them. And that's why those costumes almost always change back to the ones that people know, because without them, they're just another well-built super-person in colourful tights.
 
Wonder Woman hasn't been particularly well-handled since Perez, who was the only writer after the first series to really seem to know the character and care about her. Naturally,  DC shafted him and her both, and justifiably Perez washed his hands of the series and DC after too many such stunts annihilated any hopes for War of the Gods which, while not the best crossover ever, was at least tons better than most of the other ones that had gone before and, uniquely, had Wonder Woman in a central position.
 
I was glad to hear Gail Simone was off the title, since all she seemed to know about Wonder Woman was 'she's a woman'. It's not surprising some people jumped on her bandwagon, since after 'Amazons Attack', anything's going to be an improvement. But at the same time, she clearly didn't know much of anything about the character or her history, or least of all her people.
 
Straczynski has his fans, but he isn't a good comic writer. I have no hopes for this storyline. It's just a stunt, nothing more or less, and it will disappear into the already-convoluted mess that Wonder Woman has become.

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#4  Edited By hushicho

I agree with Hamz's comments...most comic fans these days seem to have the equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome. They've been abused by these writers and their heroes have been utterly ruined beyond all hope of repair besides some mass retcon. Yet they keep buying either in the vain hopes that things will improve, or because they've been buying for a while and it's just a familiar, comforting gesture.
 
I'd just like to say, afierce pinned the key item down that if people keep buying the series even when it goes to utter crap, they're just going to think that people like it or want it and keep putting it out. You've got to stop buying series, and let them know why you stopped buying series, or else it does no good in any case.
 
There's also the point that, with most series, they're just going to put them out in a trade paperback in a month or two anyway, so who cares? If you're really that bothered, you can pick it up as a tpb later and read through it.
 
The companies need to be taught that sticking by a few 'golden boy' writers and letting them ride roughshod over everything no matter what is not a good idea.
 
And for pity's sake, DC, stop butchering Wonder Woman. It was bad enough you gave the title to Gail Simone, who knows jack and squat about the character other than 'she's a woman'...now what've you done?!

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#5  Edited By hushicho

The Fantastic Four are a family, which is why they have complementary costumes. Their costumes, however, are not the same costume, and in fact they never have been; the motifs were similar, but Thing for example has never worn the same costume as the rest.
 
When the raison d'etre behind a team is that close and that intimate, it fits to have them wear costumes of a complementary motif. However, it didn't work for the X-Men -- the film costumes were butt-ugly and made it look like they had just sprung from a leather bar to come fight the villains, and when they tried to imitate that in the comics, it just looked visually uninteresting.
 
Costumed heroes should generally always have iconic, colourful costumes, and typically that is accomplished by everyone having an individual look that suits their origin or powers. The reason why the Avengers, for example, wear different outfits is because they are all  from different circumstances and all different heroes that also work separately from the team. The same is true for the Justice League. While they do operate as a gestalt entity when addressing issues as a team, there is little need to set their individual identities aside.
 
Uniforms are generally needless. Only when a common motif suits a team should they be used. It also is less interesting visually and can lead to confusion of characters, especially if characters have similar physical attributes or if, for example, the comic is in black and white and colour can't be used as a crutch to differentiate similar-looking characters.

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#6  Edited By hushicho

The Ultimate universe is, frankly, crap.
 
It wasn't originally, because it initially consisted of: streamlined Spider-Man continuity.
 
However, as it went on, it started to suck worse and worse. The Ultimate universe was where the writers could completely butcher any characters they wanted, either figuratively or literally, and often both. And as it continued, it became even clearer that Ultimate Spider-Man really didn't fit in with the rest of that universe at all. It was clearly not even imagined in the beginning that they were going to do anything but Spider-Man in it, whatever they might say. And once they had defined the tone for his book, they couldn't un-define it.
 
A 'movie continuity' universe is not that attractive because, well, movies and comics aren't the same. They can't tell the stories the same way. While the films often have to condense story in a serious way into around a 2-hour running time, comics aren't so restricted. And some storytelling methods that work in films won't work in comics, and vice-versa. The Marvel films have also been seriously hit-or-miss, and with their proclivities towards rebooting successful series for no apparent reason, it would likely also carry over into the books.
 
I like the Marvel Adventures universe, specifically in that the characters are streamlined and self-evident for who and what they are, they tend not to be mired down with endless angst and pathos, and they're generally respected by the writers, who tend not to destroy them in horrible ways. That's what I like in my superhero comics: fun stories with exciting battles where the good guys are, well...good, and the bad guys are not so good.
 
If they can accomplish this with their MCU books, then that will be a step in the right direction. But if you ask me, the main Marvel Universe could just do with a total reboot. They need to stop pretending that irreparable damage hasn't been done to most of the characters. Just hit the button and start again. Repeatedly branching off other universes just seems like a transparent grab for fans' funds.

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#7  Edited By hushicho

 Before they decided to utterly destroy the character and all that had been developed of her by going with what was supposed to be a one-shot story not tied into any continuity, Barbara Gordon had the most interesting and richest development of her life running for office and even managing to make it to Congress. It was easily the most interesting thing done with the character, but of course that was all tossed into the wood chipper by Crisis on Infinite Earths retcons and then, of course, the abysmal Killing Joke, which was never intended to enter into continuity. A shame, really, as the element of the character attempting to balance politics, superheroics, and romance was always interesting to me as a young reader. Barbara's unique position as Commissioner Gordon's daughter also brought a new depth to their relationship, which was especially interesting to see in contrast with that of Batman and Robin, and Batman and Commissioner Gordon...and of course, Batgirl and Robin.

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#8  Edited By hushicho

 It's likely that in fact the word was used with full awareness of all meanings. The writers of comics were and are adults, and working in comics -- which are some of the least highbrow literature in existence -- never, ever separates anyone from the most prurient of vernacular. Since comic stories had to (and have to) go through several people's approval before being printed, this was probably a jolly time for them to see if they could get away with saying 'boner' as many times as could be plausibly packed into a single comic.
 
Comic writers and artists have a long history of these little inside jokes and gestures. Perhaps the best-known is Power Girl's breasts, which were gradually but noticeably enlarged in every subsequent issue she appeared after the first, to see if they could get away with making her bust as vast as possible and to see if anyone would notice. 

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#9  Edited By hushicho

 Nolan is not a talented artist, and his attempt to focus on 'realism', as usual with such attempts, misses the entire point of costumed superheroic fantasy. And while Christian Bale may have been a talented child actor, his charisma and acting ability has vanished with age.
 
The previous films were exercises in mind-numbing boredom and so little restraint was exercised in editing that it made the whole of them seem like hollow, masturbatory gestures for the director.
 
I for one hope we don't see any kind of female lead in the upcoming film of any real significance. I enjoyed most of the 90s series of Batman films, and the female leads in them were generally interesting and contributed to the story in some meaningful way. The strongest instance was Batman Returns, which really should have been called Catwoman Guest-Starring Batman, since she essentially carried the whole film.

The weakness of the Nolan films means that either the character would be so insignificant as to be negligible (as they have been up to now), or a strong and likely well-loved character downplayed to the point of being insulting.

I don't think the al Ghul family need to reappear in the series; once was painful enough. I'm not a fan of any of them, but the way they were handled in Batman Begins was embarrassing. Huntress would not be a good fit and would likely come off as poorly as possible. Batgirl or Batwoman would likely be insulting portrayals. Catwoman would either dominate the film (as she did in Batman Returns) or likewise be downplayed into a pale imitation of who she should be.

Batman really doesn't necessarily need a romantic interest, but he does need someone to provide viewer identification. Presenting him as a sociopathic nutjob only works when there's something a bit less bat-poop insane to identify with, like Robin. But of course Christian Bale has repeatedly whined that he will quit if one is added.

I say move for Robin and Bale, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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#10  Edited By hushicho

Frankly the character should never have been killed off in the first place and was only killed off because Didio and his idiot squad thought that nobody cared about the JLI era League. The entirety of the build-up to his death was basically massive disrespect for the character, and as for it 'meaning something', all it meant was a big middle finger to fans of the character.
 
Sure, bring him back! And then get on bringing back the bevy of other characters who got shafted by DC over the years, often with needless cruelty and savagery, especially in the past decade. Enough of this asinine playing around with will-they-won't-they half-assed bringing characters back. Either do it or stop toying with readers to get them to buy your book that otherwise isn't very interesting.

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