Greg Land Strikes Again!


Seige: Storming Asgard-Heroes And Villians

Does this picture not disturb you? No? How about if I tell you that this a frightening Greg Land Seige Solicit? Yeah you better be scared know. I mean female Loki, and Spider-Woman have got that triditional land porrnface goin' on, and well Spider-Woman's got more than just that if you can see what I saw? Thoughts please!
50 Comments
50 Comments
Posted by Decept-O

What I agree with concerning Greg Land that G-Man pointed out is Land makes a lot of his characters, especially the females, look similar.  This picture isn't bad, actually, but Ms. Marvel and whom I believe is Mockingbird in the background, look identical.    
 
I think someone stated he probably uses photographs of people and then traces over them?  I don't know if that's true.   Do you or does someone else have any info about that possibility? 
 
Heck I've drawn plenty of female characters are a bit "saucy".    I don't mind it but even I make efforts to make the characters look different as people should be depicted.  Please look at my images in my profile for examples. 
Posted by inferiorego

His artwork in the latest Uncanny X-Men was distracting. Everyone looked the same and they all looked like they were traced

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Posted by Precise

I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder.

Posted by inferiorego
@Precise said:
" I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder. "
so does mine
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Posted by hero vs. villian
@Decept-O:
Well at least you put effort into it. Hats off to you sir!
Posted by Decept-O

@herovs.villain:  Thank You.  Probably seemed like I was fishing for a compliment but yeah I do see your point, as so many others state, it all just looks the same.   
 
I suspect why Marvel keeps him on board because he uses his "technique" of possibly tracing, copying and pasting and that enables him to crank out his work a lot faster.  Sadly readers and fans recognize the fact he isn't using much effort and that is very distracting, like inferiorego stated.   
 
Quality DOES matter to fans but I think Marvel is just looking at the financial side of it.  They should BUT should also pay attention to the fact fans aren't havin' crap pasted in their funny books.
Posted by Vance Astro

Let the man trace if he wants to.You guys are just mad because he gets to work at Marvel without being a real artist and you don't =P.

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Posted by Stormultt

i like gregs work,  hell iif i had a comic id like him to do art for it. quit hatin
Posted by goosehorn

he traced that iron man from a movie poster and  thats Obama as Norman Osborn and he used a porn star for female loki 

Posted by War Killer

Who's still going to buy the book anyways?

Posted by danhimself
@War Killer:  I am 
 
 
what bothers me is that Loki hasn't been a female in months but in everything outside of Thor everyone keeps making him a woman
Posted by Sparda

Iron Man looks nearly the exact same as he does on the Iron Man movie posters (in pose and everything.....).

Posted by Nighthunter

Is it me or Iron man looks exactly as in the DVD box?

Posted by No_Name_
@Precise said:
" I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder. "
Win.
Posted by TheSavageAssasin
@goosehorn said:
" he traced that iron man from a movie poster and  thats Obama as Norman Osborn and he used a porn star for female loki  "
You are so right!
Posted by Koeil
@Precise said:
" I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder. "

God art like this just irks me. All the blondes are identical, as if saying "All blondes are the same in comics so why make a difference between them...f@#k it." God what a lazy artist
Posted by War Killer
@danhimself said:
"@War Killer:  I am   what bothers me is that Loki hasn't been a female in months but in everything outside of Thor everyone keeps making him a woman "
I like Loki being a woman, I don't know, it's fresh and new, and the idea is interesting to me
Posted by hero vs. villian
@Sparda:
That is called tracing my friend
Edited by ARMIV

...This might just be me,but Norman kinda looks like Obama...
Okay,so I'm not alone on this...

Posted by EisforExtinction

Check out where Spider-Man's hand is.

Posted by danhimself
@EisforExtinction: well they did go on a date
Posted by Nova`Prime`

I don't have a problem with the guy tracing, hell if that's your art style and you can make money off of it more power to you. But can you pick more then three chicks for your trace work. I mean does he not have access to the internet?

Posted by ARMIV

In fact,everyone there just looks different from the rest...
Might just be me,but did he trace everyone?

Posted by SwaggaB0y
@inferiorego said:
" @Precise said:
" I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder. "
so does mine "
Nice
Posted by Decept-O

@VanceAstro:  Whether or not your statement was aimed at me I don't know but I can tell you I am well aware of the fact I am an amateur and don't have any delusions that I would ever be able to work for Marvel or any other comic book company.    I'm not jealous, its the fact he doesn't seem to be putting effort in making the characters have any type of physical diversity.  I'm on the fence with his work. 
 
  I think a lot of readers are stating it appears his art appears to be traced over photos or other source material and his characters look similar.  G-Man also has commented about this very topic and he's the one who actually brought my attention when I watched his review some time ago.  
 
Posted by TheSavageAssasin
@EisforExtinction said:
" Check out where Spider-Man's hand is. "
LOL
Posted by Vance Astro
@Decept-O said:
" @VanceAstro:  Whether or not your statement was aimed at me I don't know but I can tell you I am well aware of the fact I am an amateur and don't have any delusions that I would ever be able to work for Marvel or any other comic book company.    I'm not jealous, its the fact he doesn't seem to be putting effort in making the characters have any type of physical diversity.  I'm on the fence with his work.    I think a lot of readers are stating it appears his art appears to be traced over photos or other source material and his characters look similar.  G-Man also has commented about this very topic and he's the one who actually brought my attention when I watched his review some time ago.    "
My post was completely sarcastic.My apologies if you took it any other way.
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Posted by SwaggaB0y

Has anyone ever looked at ironman and imagined his suit smiling?

Edited by Vance Astro
@SwaggaB0y said:

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Has anyone ever looked at ironman and imagined his suit smiling?

"
I tried.I got nothing.
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Posted by SwaggaB0y
@Vance Astro said:
" @SwaggaB0y said:

"

Has anyone ever looked at ironman and imagined his suit smiling?

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I tried.I got nothing. "
for me its like when I see him talking in a normal tone while he is in his suit I see him with a smile or at least not frowning lol. I dunno maybe its just me.
Posted by PrinceIMC

I agree he can make characters look similar in the face but I do like the little details and such in their clothes and stuff.

Posted by War Killer

I like his art for the most part, and I don't mind him using pictures like Iron Man for his art either, I don't see what the big fuss is about?

Posted by FoxxFireArt
@Babs said:
" @Precise said:
" I can't get over how copy and pasted spider-woman looks.. her crotch hangs over wolverine's shoulder. "
Win. "
One thing I have noticed about Land. Look at the way he draws women. The only dramatic pose he ever uses for a woman is fists on the hips and legs spread wide. The scary thing isn't that he keeps doing this over and over. It's that the Marvel editors let him get away with it.
 
Why is the real Ms. Marvel's head 'under' Loki's cloak?
Posted by BIackFlash

It's a lot more difficult to 'trace' than people say, but I do agree for a guy with his potential he is very lazy.
 
 http://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-greg-land-ripoffs.html
 
 http://lubbockonline.net/blogs/slemmons/comments.php?y=07&m=08&entry=entry070813-071341
 
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3974

Posted by pansyman

his bucky captain america is posed just like ultimate cap in ultimate power

Posted by jedd

haha poor ms marvel
Posted by LP
@TheSavageAssasin said:
" @EisforExtinction said:
" Check out where Spider-Man's hand is. "
LOL "
LMAO
Edited by MysteriousBlack
@EisforExtinction said:

"Check out where Spider-Man's hand is. "


Nah, she (Miss Marvel) likes it. Look at the smirk.
Posted by daveydavey

I like his Art.
Posted by DavidR

 I do not understand what the big deal is. His work is good, even if he copies or traces a percentage of it. Many artists in the field take shortcuts. Some of the greats use photographs all the time. His work is clean and it catches your eye. He is probably better suited to sell covers than maybe tell a story. Artists are people and they have to make a living.
 
All haters give the guy a break. Even if he traced it, it is a very labor intensive field to work in. There is a lot of art that is truly crap in the comic business. The style he chose is at least pleasing to look at. I myself have preferred the non photographic styles more due to the higher intensity and energy from the art. Photographic art is pretty to look at but can get boring quickly.
 
All in all from what I can tell, most of the people criticizing probably cannot even draw. Everyone has different tastes and if you don't like his move on. In time if you like the book but not the artist, sales may drop and a new guy will take his place. Give him a little respect. He did not get were he is at artistically without putting many, many hours of practice......

Edited by castleking
your greg land arent you?  -_-
 
for ur info i can draw with the best of them and replicate pictures without tracing..... i  still dislike his laziness......

 
had i known thats all one needed to get into comics i would have just gotten sports,  porn and hand modeling (since i suck at hands) magazines and tried my luck in comics.... 
 
the only reason he sells is b/c their are less  informed comic fans who like flash art 1st and story content 2nd.

 
but i am sure if the media focus on his art style and using ppl like brad pitt for magneto he be kicked out and hated once the general public was informed
Posted by DavidR
@castleking: No i'm not Greg, in fact I had not seen his work until today. I like the flash but find his story telling is boring. An inker is a tracer too, in essence.
 What he's done is just embellished work or photos of others. Personally I think everyone is way too harsh.  
 
I too am an artist and do not think that this is a life or death issue to get worked up over. All the best artists at time will copy. I myself am too lazy to copy over someones work and find it easier for myself to actually draw all original work, (more satisfying) been doing it since I was 3. It's more fun for me. Tried copying and it was a hassle in comparison to let it flow from my mind to my fingers. Having a style like Greg's limits u too what is realistic. I like free styling it, as I said more energy pops into the page.
 I just started getting back into finding time to draw again. I feel I still have a ways to go but I got burned out years ago. I do it for fun at this time. Time allotted, I may be able to turn it into a profession, not sure being tied to my desk all day is were I want to be but I'm enjoying it now. Burned out years ago and should have stuck with it and pursued it... 
 
      You can check some of my work at ..     myspace.com/robert_ms
Posted by CATMANEXE
@danhimself said:
" @War Killer:  I am   what bothers me is that Loki hasn't been a female in months but in everything outside of Thor everyone keeps making him a woman "
same here.
Posted by DavidR
@castleking:  Funny, not to be an ass but to draw with the best of them you shouldn't suck at drawing hands. Hands are not easy but the best of them don't have that problem....    : )
Posted by castleking
@DavidR said:
" @castleking:  Funny, not to be an ass but to draw with the best of them you shouldn't suck at drawing hands. Hands are not easy but the best of them don't have that problem....    : ) "
its not that i cant draw them its just that it is difficult to and i never got use to them
Posted by DavidR
@castleking: 
I understand, my point is that if a person reaches the level of the top professionals, hands are not difficult. I was just noticing that you mentioned you are as good as the best.
 
 I myself do not like to be to outwardly critical of others since I myself do not want to be judged so harshly. I draw to the best of my abilities and always push myself to improve on what level I reach. What I most of all want to accomplish is, art that is fun and dynamic to look at and a panel to panel layout that's enjoyable, easy to read and understand.
Posted by castleking
once you reach a certain lvl of artistic ability whether difficult or not artist should be able to draw a dynamic human anatomy without source material perhaps not in full detail but show knowledge of anatomy. 
 
i have noticed the greg land likes to half @$$ his cover art and inside art by bypassing certain difficult artistic areas like feet. he either covers them up or cuts off his characters at the shins or thighs...
Posted by DavidR

   I am not here to agree or disagree. To me there has been so much crap in comics that I lost interest for 17 years. I like a lot of what I have seen lately and it started the artistic juices flowing again. I like to do things on my own terms so I try to stay out of the limelight until I feel I get better. The stuff that's on Myspace is a reflection of somewhat as to where I am. 
 
At this point I have a ways to go but in time I will post a professional portfolio online to a degree that I feel proud off. I am keeping my best stuff off the internet for the moment until I feel I can display a level that maybe others can truly enjoy. Over the years I have seen many copycats and really bad artists and wonder how they ever made it.
 
 I know Greg's stuff maybe annoys and bothers some but just as with art I did not like, I just focused on the stuff that I felt I could learn from. Regardless of what people think, there is a lot that can be learned from his style. In some ways things that can be useful as well as things that maybe need to be avoided. I just don't let it bother me. Look at it and then I move on to the next piece of art by another artist. So much to learn from, so little time.

Edited by DavidR
@castleking: This is something I am working on at the moment, trying to find the time to finish it....
Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k

Don`t forget that everybodys legs have been amputated.