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#1  Edited By HellionVulcan

Main question is Daken allowed pheromone usage ? as it'll give him the edge needed to win.

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Gladiator has always beaten her or just slapped her away and dealt with someone else.

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Gladiator has better high end feats but greater low end feats due to being in X-Men comics etc, I would back Gladiator as the slightly superior of the two overall by excluding pis/wis feats.

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@thedailybagel: Gladiator busted a planet in an 8 page story designed to introduce obscure characters to readers - penned by someone who hasn’t written him before or since and has zero relevance to the rest of his publication history.

Still canon.

Around the same time period his own creator was having him get KOed by a young colossus and KOed by Gambit.

Gladiator wasn't KO'd by either but Hulk has been KO'd by Colossus before with a little help from Kitty's Dragon. Gladiator knocked out Colossus hence him carry an unconcious Peter, All Gambit did was knock him off panel as nothing indicates a ko. If you want to go further Gladiator was being mind controlled throughout the time by Skrull prime and clearly weakened after the connection was broken. You know context matters which you blatantly ignored.

It's fully explained on panel too which makes your ignorance worse.

Yet we want to talk about consistency? Hulk already slapped him in a weakened pre core breach form, WBH incinerates him.

The plot fight where Gladiators optic blast generates the rare radiation he is weak to and Hulk gains telepathy to know it's his weakness?. Hulk was weakened but was stronger so don't lie badly about it.

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@sirdragonfly: The fact that you think that punching a character through a planet is impressive or is even anywhere near close to planetary tells me you aren't worth arguing with regarding feats and scaling.

Punching a character through a planet is impressive feat as how many times has Hulk or anyone else done that ?. Because you don't have feats to go by hence your assumptions and fancals as neither are fact nor worth scaling.

Amazing logic.

It is because if Hulk fought Gorr like Thor did, he would've died while Thor tanked it all. Big difference between the characters.

More illogical incoherence.

Complete Irony from a guy defending an outlier, Character statements supercede your fantasy.

Not sure how these are papercuts?

Yes, it's why wolverine can damage Hulk far worse than he can Thor.

I am not sure what you're trying to say here. You agree with me pointing out why your logic is shit or you agree with that statement about Thor/Bill feat being irrelevant?

My logic broke you and it's hilarious, Hulk's/red she Hulk feat and Thor's/Bill's feat can not be done solo by any of them. I don't get how you can disregard Thor and Bill's outlier feat but defends Hulk's outlier when it's the exact same thing, it's extremely hypocritical and biased.

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@sirdragonfly: What feats does Thor have to place him there? More wanked out-of-context outliers? Funny.

It's not an outlier if he does anything similar like punching a character through a planet and that was young Thor lol

Not sure why cracking moons with multiple hits that rip muscles and tear bones (not even busting, and not even planets, and not even casually without self-damage) is anywhere near WBH's clash.

The force was greater with Thor's considering he never died and was fighting someone more powerful than himself.

WBH never died, this is headcanon that I have already debunked and you ducked to address.

Show me Hulk surviving as you can't as Hulk's word means more than your headcanon nonsense.

WBH's clash with RSH incinerated an SS-level being as well as Bi-Beast, who has survived all-out hits from a non-holding back Thor. Thor wasn't vaped when he moon busted against Gorr, which proves that WBH's feat is tiers above Thor's wanked outlier.

You're literally defending an outlier as the lack of self awareness is disturbing, Thor's durability is better than Hulks. it's why wolverine damages Hulk worse while giving Thor papercuts.

By this "no solo feats logic" Thor didn't contribute to destroying Surtur's portal (one of Thor's most wanked feats) because he had Bill's help. Therefore this feat is irrelevant.

I would agree with you as you'd need both characters in the fight to make the feat count legitimately otherwise it doesn't count at all.

When headcanon and cope infect the mind it can lead to this kind of illogical logic.

Ah projections always the lowest denominator.

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Can be stopped between round 6 and onwards as the first 5 rounds are pretty easy.

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@sirdragonfly: Pulling Thor's outlier against Gorr which isn't even anywhere near as powerful as WBH's clash is really biased considering that Thor was kayoed by a rock falling on him and killed by electric wires.

It's funny because that Thor has feats to place him while this Hulk does not, Hulk's action with red she Hulk killed him while Thor tanked it with ease.

So WBH is even weaker than high tiers? Gotcha. Let's ignore that everyone knows that it's not true given Hulk's history of either holding his own equally against an all-out Thor or outright owning him. Now especially that Devil Hulk nearly one-shot killed Thor and Joe Fixit was owning Odinforce Thor.

World Breaker died to a planet explosion as Thor and Hulk have beaten each other consistently, You mean that cheap shot against a poorly written Thor who in his current run tanked worse.

Not sure if you're you trolling or just seriously coping due to WBH being more powerful than you want him to be?

I'm serious as a version of a character with no solo feats is laughable to say anything about it without assumptions and low IQ fancals. Remember when TOBA came out and only had statements as this Hulk is virtually the same.

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Dead stops at two due to Wally being bloodlusted.

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Thanos backhands him back in to DC.