This seems kind of spite considering current Wolverine is dead (or at the least, doesn't heal), current Cable has no powers and you put both Cyclops and Samus on the same team. Samus, the space traveling bounty hunter with all sorts of crazy weapons (super missiles, plasma weapons, scanning modes that seem to instantly analyze any kind of technology and dark energy beams) and other suit powers that would most likely overwhelm any of Iron Man's standard suits. Honestly, all Deadpool has to do is tell jokes about how badly team 1 is getting rocked.
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@animehunter: Except that she's already been strongly hinted to be appearing in at least one X-Men book after this series ends. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/07/21/x-men-full-panel-report-from-sdcc-amazing-x-men-longshot-and-x-23/
She was mentioned in a Brian Wood interview recently as well.
This sounds like an interesting fight. They all have similar skill levels, and when written properly, they're all tactically smart. One has gadgets, one has weapons and a robotic arm, and one has a healing factor and adamantium claws. They're also fairly experienced (X-23 being the least bit experienced, but that may not be a factor).
How much knowledge do they have of each other before this encounter? If Nightwing has prior knowledge of them, I'd give him the initial edge. If not, he'd likely have the disadvantage. Both X-23 and Winter Soldier are willing to kill, giving him a further disadvantage.
That said, the longer the fight goes on, the more it tips in X-23's favour - they'd have to knock her out early, but if she fought strategically, she could easily appear weaker at first, and pop them with her foot claws when they least expected it (a strategy she's used successfully on numerous occasions).
I'm not sure which way to vote.
They fought in a crossover of their solo titles (like issues 8-9) cant remember exactly how it went down but daken won. So daken
What are you talking about? They fought each other to a standstill, and she did better against the mutated children in the Weapon X lab when they worked together later in the crossover.
Since then, she's also taken on four venom powered clones of herself and all sorts of demonic monsters (without an active healing factor by the way) in the Venom crossover. Along with the rest of the Avengers Academy, she fought a series of superpowered teenagers when she was depowered and dying of Adamantium poisoning. She knocked out an elder of the universe - the collector. She tackled Rockslide during the Jean Grey School/Avengers Academy football game, which is an impressive strength feat.
Outside of her feats, she's practiced a lot on robots (with Finesse, who learns to fight the exact same way Taskmaster does), had sparring matches with different Avengers including Tigra and is often shown working out in her cameos. Where has Daken been since their crossover? Oh right, Wolverine drowned him in a pool.
Without his recent horsemen powerup, I'd give the advantage to X-23. Adamantium claws aren't much of an upgrade for him considering his claws were strong enough to cut through metal anyway. If anything, the metal will slow his healing factor a bit.
I vote for X-23
Wait, at the end of the clip, did they forget that gravity exists? Sure, he'd fly backward on the train, but he'd also stumble down. He shouldn't be "flying" toward the Japanese knife man, he should be rolling on the top of the train. Can't say this makes me any more excited for the movie, which was virtually not at all.
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@lykopis: I said Skaar, when did Daken fight Rulk? Did I miss something? Regardless, if they worked they worked which is my point and if it worked I would be more inclined to say so will their other abilities, otherwise it wouldn't in the first place of Wolverine could have smelled them and he was fighting Skaar and got him to calm down eventually before fighting again. But I don't think they are a deciding factor here in a regular Vine ruled fight.
It would work on her because he's done it Wolverine and someone with precognition that move much faster than them and even Spidey said he barely had his head removed judging by the speed of the attack. Senses in theory should work on it but Logan has fallen victim to it and I feel if Spider-Man almost got killed then Laura is susceptible to it.If it's a matter of experience and quantity of fights that makes one the victor, then clearly Daken.
Which is where I am trying to come from. Their fights against each other weren't really good indicators but outside of them I feel Daken has done better. Her best skill feat that I recall is beating LDS and beating a holding back Wolverine who said nothing to her like he did Daken and required more training and a special weapon to beat. Daken then followed it up with other fights and feats to go along with it. X has been around longer than Daken and by a few years too. She has had chances to face her own skilled opponents but doesn't have the extensive track record to say where she truly sits. Daken, on the other hand does. Otherwise, to me it is just speculation.
If you're going by 2007 when this thread was created, X-23 had beaten Spider-Man in Marvel Team Up by then, although she took him by surprise and it was mostly played for comedy. This thread was created before X-23 fought Lady Death Strike. If you're arguing that Daken would probably win back then, I completely agree with you.
If we're talking about now however, she's already fought Daken to a standstill on her own, and did better against the mutated children in the Weapon X lab when they worked together. Since then, she's also taken on four venom powered clones of herself and all sorts of demonic monsters (without an active healing factor by the way) in the Venom crossover. She defeated a cosmically powered demon king and knocked out an elder of the universe. She fought a dragon and convinced it to stand down. Along with the rest of the Avengers Academy, she fought a series of superpowered teenagers when she was depowered and dying of Adamantium poisoning. She tackled Rockslide during the Jean Grey School/Avengers Academy football game, which is an impressive strength feat. She's had a good number of feats in the last year that outshine killing Lady Deathstrike.
Outside of her feats, she's practiced a lot on robots (with Finesse, who learns to fight the exact same way Taskmaster does), had sparring matches with different Avengers including Tigra and is often shown working out in her cameos.
I'd give her a decent advantage if your talking about modern X-23 vs modern Daken.