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@rustyroy: yeah I read all that, I am up to date all the series , I just don't understand why the fact that his secret ID is not a big focus at all, I mean it's a pretty big issue, and a big sting to connect the rest of the Bat-families IDs to be discovered, like Lex finding out Bruce is Batman, so yeah just a thought that it should be addressed more in the on going series

@nightwingism: I didn't know about the batgirl issue, I will check that out, I read the eternal issues, it just seems like the fact that dicks ID was outed should be a pretty big topic, I know in Grayson they talk a little about it but it seems like FE changed nothing but lex being on the JL, I don't know it just seems like it was a shrug and than on to the next story kind of thing. And I agree with you we probably don't need a whole Damian type of mourning but it would have been nice to see a little longer lasting effect on Tim and Babs.

All story arcs are post forever evil, but not even just the mourning thing, no one in the DCU are concerned with Grayson was Nightwing the fact that it was released to the world does not seem to matter at all, and yet no one brings it up as fans, but when death of the family happened everyone pointed out that nothing changed.... Well FE changed even less except to allow johns to put Luther on the JL.

No comics after Forever evil deal with or even state anything about the fall out of Dick Grayson being Nightwing and non of the Bat-Family even speaks about Dick being dead! I saw in Grayson that his ID was mentioned but no where else in the DCU does it seem to matter, and no one is even mourning his death, why do you guys think that is? Any thoughts? Or any issues that you know of that deal with the fall out of his ID being outed or his death?

No comics after Forever evil deal with or even state anything about the fall out of Dick Grayson being Nightwing and non of the Bat-Family even speaks about Dick being dead! I saw in Grayson that his ID was mentioned but no where else in the DCU does it seem to matter, and no one is even mourning his death, why do you guys think that is? Any thoughts? Or any issues that you know of that deal with the fall out of his ID being outed or his death?

I see on here people talking about the omaga beams, and how batman shouldn't be able to survive, I thought batman used the shard to obsorb the blast, so it's not bat-God it was the shard that protected him.

Let's think for a minute, WB would not allow one of its most successful properties lose to another successful properties, yes the will fight but there will most likely not be a winner, they need both these characters to be strong and work together Dawn of justice is in the title so I don't think they will make batman beat superman and then they all of a sudden team up after, so let's chill out and wait for the movie to come out....Jesus

Such a cool series, anyone who is a Grayson or bat fan need to check it out!

The joker is the one question the worlds greatest detective can not answer, he has no past and no pattern that is what makes him so dangerous, we don't know where he came from, we don't know why he does things, if his past was truly known then Batman could piece the rest together, that will never happen

Awesome that he is back I loved how his character grew before his death. Now who changed the timeline because in the batman and robin futures end book robin was still dead and that duke dude is robin, so it looks like that future no longer happens, am I right?