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#1  Edited By Hareil0079

http://marvel.com/news/story/19373/first_look_avx_consequences_1

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@fullmetalquach said:

I'm probably the only one who enjoyed this issue, the series as a whole wasn't too great at first, but once the phoenix five came into play I really got into it, and its bullshit that the Avengers antagonized the X-men so much, the avengers brought this on themselves, I loved the dialogue before the battle, with emma and scott and scott and charles, a lot of emotion, although its odd that hope didnt do anything in the battle, especially after what happened in AvX 10, unless the last issue is of greater length then ya I have to agree with you that there will be a lot of rushed B.S. but as a whole I think the series wasn't bad so far, slow in the beginning and better since issue 5 or 6, im also excited for marvel NOW! and i cant wait to see how this ends

Your not the only, I enjoyed the issue but UXM18 and NA30 definitely put things in perspective.

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http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/08/avx2012012400col.jpg

Can't say I'm all that surprised.

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#4  Edited By Hareil0079

I'm gonna say not all of them but I'm sure they want to.

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@Deranged Midget said:

I honestly doubt that's true. Romulus is a manipulator, he's just trying to dig into Logan's head and play with his emotions. I want to see where the next few issues go before jumping the gun.

hmmm.. true, I did read that this loeb was doing a different take on wolverine mind control/manipulation in a different direction.

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#6  Edited By Hareil0079

I think emma will be in future books but the question is how, Teen jean and her interaction, after AvX I can see her going into hiding.

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#7  Edited By Hareil0079

@Osian2 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

Yea, you pretty much Omitted everything and 6 and prior, not to mention hope reasoning.

Yea I'm done.

I didn't ignore issue 6 and earlier, re-read my post and you'll see I referenced them. I gave a possible reason why Scott refused to give Hope the power in issue 6 and why he didn't want Logan to kill her in issue 5.

Also Hopes reasoning was just stupid. First she's confident that she can handle the phoenix and that she doesn't need to be trained, then on the moon she says that she was wrong and couldn't handle it. Fast forward to Utopia 2 weeks later when Cyclops asks her if she would accept the power if he offered it she said yes. Then she leaves with the Avengers to do some training. She contradicts herself every 5 minutes! First she's ready and wants the power then she's not ready and doesn't want the power then she wants the power and finally she decides she isn't ready and goes to do some training to apparantly destroy the phoenix. Does she even want the power at this point or just want to destroy it?

She doesn't say anything, other than the fact that she mentions the PF still is calling her.

Cyke taunts her with it by calling her a child and saying what she would do.

Go re-read it again it's in writing, and you can't change it

Again your omitting what happen.

I'm done.

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#8  Edited By Hareil0079

Yea, you pretty much Omitted everything and 6 and prior, not to mention hope reasoning.

Yea I'm done.

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@Osian2 said:

He said "Scott Summers has revealed himself". So yeah he did blame Scott even though he knew that it was Namor attacking and he acted alone. What else could he have meant?

He's refferring to the the "No More Avengers" not about blaming scott.

The P5 said that they were going to "prepare" her so they obviously had something else in mind unless you believe they were going to prepare her for imprisonment or something. Again just because they didn't do it straight away doesn't mean they weren't going to do it. Maybe she needed more time to recover, maybe Cyke was punishing her for her earlier actions who knows?

Great way to omitt and not acknowledge the panels in AvX 6

There's a bit of a difference between "leaving Utopia" and "leaving Utopia with the Scarlet Witch so the Avengers can find a way to defeat or even possibly kill the P5". It's pretty understandable why Scott didn't want Hope to go with them.

It was about "leaving" Hope had no Idea about what the avengers had in store for her. And leaving with the Scarlett Witch who's aiding the avengers, Do the math, She left with the avengers and throughout this event from the time she's left has been with them.

Scott didn't want Logan to kill Hope, a teenage girl, the mutant messiah, daughter of Cable even after promising Cable he'd make sure she'd become the host to prevent a terrible future? What a prick.

It wasn't about cables promise at that point, as cyke preceding statements were about Avengers wanting to snuff us out. stopping logan from following through with hopes request was part of his initial idea of getting the PF for his people and "rebirth" Thats been the essence of Scotts thinking from the beginning of this event, Act 2 he denied Hope the PF then called outlawed the Avengers, (not to forget to mention He provided unlimited Food, Energy, and Water, and outlaw war... the outlaw of war is my problem simply because he forced a world peace) and that became his focus now Act 3 he now suddenly cares about his race when in Act when given the opportunity he chose not to, heavily reminded me of CC where given the opportunity after wanda had repowered rictor, and was willing to repower the rest of the mutant community what did Scott do? Oh yes, shoot the offer down but bet it on a Cosmic Turkey... fantastic logic.

The Avengers had Hope. How else were they supposed to find her? For all we know they were interrogated about her location. They weren't spending their time "torturing" the Avengers Illyana threw them in a prison and then left, the demons there were torturing them. Illyana wasn't there poking them with a stick or anything. In Legacy when Illyana wasn't searching for the Avengers she was continuing to help the planet.

That made no sense what so ever. And since Illyana rules limbo last I checked, unless that change please let me know her command is whats going to happen, which is shown in AvX 9 and XML Tie-Ins and Illyana right there present for all of this, please dont be obtuse about that scene it was straight forward as one can get and was stated in interviews. And scenes we see Illyana in Tie-ins she's hunting avengers (WaTXM comes to mind when bobby and her subdue the Thing and in AvX 9 when her and her brother take down THor)

So you yourself don't see anything wrong with Scotts actions but you still want him to be brought down? Ok then...

He won't come out clean because he's already being blamed for everything. Cap blamed him for Wakanda as did Prof X, the other x-men i.e. Storm, Iceman and Magneto have all said that Cyclops has been corrupted, Iron Fist compared him to Mussolini, Hawkeye believed that Scott was going to kill Hope (If he wanted to do that he could have shut off her mind the moment he arrived) and Hope herself accused him of being a monster and destroying innocent lives. The only way he would come out clean is if everyone said "you know what? He wasn't that bad," Go read a couple of reviews of the issue and you'll find that most are saying that Cyke ha become a tyrant and corrupt.

None of them has stated Cyke is corrupted, Bobby was sorry and felt he was on the wrong side, Storm was upset cause what the P5 were doing she was unaware and was mad at herself for being fooled and letting it get as far as it did, Magneto had got pwnd by Emma and feels the worse has happen. IF comment to cyke made little sense, Hope called him a monster after he took down a baby dragon. You said lives he's destroyed? what lives so far? I'd argue all he's really done is ignore emma especially in 9 when he ignored her request for help and in UXM Tie-In beginning of the Sinister Arc where the their PR rep states on the P5 being able to broadcast telepathically making her feel her job is irrelevant.

YOu should take your own advise on the reviews and actually read them and some commentary from the writers themselves and read some interviews.

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#10  Edited By Hareil0079

@Mercy_ said:

Whyyyyyy does this have to look good?

Because it is :p