Beast vs black panther

black panther has his signature little vibranium knives and daggers of course the suit which absorbs kinetic energy.Beast has all he needs in his brain and natural given abilities.the fight takes place in the streets New York.There is bloodlust.who will win?

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Posted by Joygirl

Beast SHOULD win. But that doesn't mean he will.

Posted by God_Spawn

@joygirl: there is absolutely no reason beast should at all.

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Posted by Skaddix

Beast gets his *** handed to him. This is really no contest.

Posted by dondave

T'Challa

Posted by Joshwojo22

You cant rule out beast, his superhuman strength durability and stamina with a slight healing factor should keep him in the fight for awhile. But ultimately without prep he would have a hard time. This fight could go either way in my opinion.

Posted by Cadmus_Knightfall

Considering vibranium absorbs all kinetic force, I'm confused as how you expect Beast to even harm BP.

Posted by OmniBeast

@skaddix said:

Beast gets his *** handed to him. This is really no contest.

This.

Also I know Beast is intelligent, but IIRC Tchalla is the 8th smartest man (on earth) in marvel 616. Even then, his combat skills are nasty, and beast doesn't have any kind of defense against BP's arsenal, besides for just taking shots and keep moving.

Edited by slade_wilson

What if Beast caught the vibranium knives and threw them back at BP and hit him? Would there be an effect?

Posted by dondave

BP

Posted by dimitridkatsis

You kidding? Black Panther can take Wolverine.

Posted by RenaissanceMan

You kidding? Black Panther can take Wolverine.

You should make a thread and watch the Wolverine fanboys go nuts.

Posted by dimitridkatsis
Edited by Juiceboks

What's up with people overrating Hank so much recently? Did he do something in the comics to warrant all this hype?

Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen

@juiceboks: I haven't seen DOFP yet but I assume he did something cool in it - thus a recent flux in his popularity.

Posted by Wolverine08

T'Challa, easily.

@dimitridkatsis said:

You kidding? Black Panther can take Wolverine.

You should make a thread and watch the Wolverine fanboys go nuts.

Why are you still salty because you can't make good cases against Wolverine?

Posted by OmniBeast

@juiceboks: @thetruebarryallen: DON'T READ THIS IF MINOR SPOILERS BUG YOU~

In DOFP, Hank goes hard Wolverine, he absolutely destroys Wolvie in one scene (to be fair it was a surprise attack.) Rushed him into oblivion (exaggeration obviously) and it was just a spectacular scene for Hank it was really good and it just show cased how good beast really is when he doesn't hold back so much.

Edited by Juiceboks

@thetruebarryallen: I saw it the day after it premiered, and I'll admit he was pretty cool and apparently most people who saw feel the same. I just don't see why all the hullabaloo from that is extending to his comic book counterpart, when it's painstakingly obvious Beast isn't that formidable compared to legit street level badasses like T'challa.

Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen

@thetruebarryallen: I saw it the day after it premiered, and I'll admit he was pretty cool and apparently most people who saw feel the same. I just don't see why all the hullabaloo from that is extending to his comic book counterpart, when it's painstakingly obvious Beast isn't that formidable compared to legit street level badasses like T'challa.

Oh I agree - but people get hyped by Comic Films. T'challa would dominate Beast.

Posted by THUNDERBOLT30

Black Panther for the win.

Posted by dimitridkatsis

Seriously Black Panther is more badass than Batman. Little Wayne watches his folks shot down by a punk sits there crying, T'Chala watches his father being assassinated picks up a gun and shoots the assassin out a window.

Posted by jashro44

@dimitridkatsis said:

You kidding? Black Panther can take Wolverine.

You should make a thread and watch the Wolverine fanboys go nuts.

Still mad that wolverine beats deathstroke I see.

Posted by jashro44

Black Panther beats the snot out of him.

Posted by Spideysense44

Black Panther can beat Beast with both arms tied behind his back while eating a bag of Skittles

Posted by RenaissanceMan

@jashro44 said:

@renaissanceman said:

@dimitridkatsis said:

You kidding? Black Panther can take Wolverine.

You should make a thread and watch the Wolverine fanboys go nuts.

Still mad that wolverine beats deathstroke I see.

But he doesn't. lol

Posted by Experio

Panther

Edited by pooty

Considering vibranium absorbs all kinetic force, I'm confused as how you expect Beast to even harm BP.

Vibranium does not absorb all kinetic force BP has been hit by iron fist, red skull, Kraven's son etc. also hank has claws which can shred the suit. the suit doesn't protect against slashes

Posted by Jonez120

Panther

Posted by Twentyfive

I shed a tear for my favorite X-Man.

Posted by ZhuRong

I didn't know T'Challa was invulnerable *sides eye* I can name a good number of people that would mop the floor with him.

Posted by jashro44

But he doesn't. lol

Your lack of evidence speaks otherwise.

@pooty said:

@cadmus_knightfall said:

Considering vibranium absorbs all kinetic force, I'm confused as how you expect Beast to even harm BP.

Vibranium does not absorb all kinetic force BP has been hit by iron fist, red skull, Kraven's son etc. also hank has claws which can shred the suit. the suit doesn't protect against slashes

It does. If he didn't have the vibranium suit he would have been dead from iron fist seeing as he got hit with the force of a freight train. Iron man stated blunt force and repulsor beams wouldn't work and he needs to choke black panther out, and he's stopped a car thrown at him by the hulk (he would have been dead otherwise), vibranium reduces the impact in his landing to the point where he doesn't even make a sound falling from 50 ft, he's tanked exploding cars IIRC, it stopped an entire clip of bullets when it was shot at him etc. The showing with red skull and Aloysha are just low showings.

You're right about it not protecting from slashes but its not like he actually needs the vibranium suit to win here. Beast isn't impressive combat wise.

@zhurong said:

I didn't know T'Challa was invulnerable *sides eye* I can name a good number of people that would mop the floor with him.

He's not invulnerable since he has limits.

Edited by Wolverine08

I shed a tear for my favorite X-Man.

Beast appreciates it.

Posted by pooty

@jashro44: Those are not low showings. It has happened to many times to be low showings. it greatly reduces impact. It does not absorb ALL kinetic energy. he would be untouchable. He is not.

Posted by jashro44

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Those are not low showings. It has happened to many times to be low showings. it greatly reduces impact. It does not absorb ALL kinetic energy. he would be untouchable. He is not.

Twice is not many times. He's not untouchable considering the suit can be slashed across the grain. Not really sure what the big deal is.

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@jashro44 said:

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Those are not low showings. It has happened to many times to be low showings. it greatly reduces impact. It does not absorb ALL kinetic energy. he would be untouchable. He is not.

Twice is not many times. He's not untouchable considering the suit can be slashed across the grain. Not really sure what the big deal is.

I count 3 times for sure. iron fist, red skull, kraven son. That's three right there. Also, i think namor hit him through a wall into a car. . and wolverine tackled him onto a beach. So it may be more then 3 but 3 is enough to prove: Tchalla is NOT untouchable to brute force attacks. it's not a big deal until someone insist that something is impossible when the impossible has been accomplished at least 3 times.

Posted by jashro44

@pooty: I am not sure what your point is with namor and iron fist. I already stated he wasn't invulnerable and vibranium has its limits. Namors strength varies but his high end feats have him fighting people like sentry (granted sentry had the upper hand) so he's not comparable to red skull or Aloysha. Iron fist was stated to hit black panther with the repeated force of a freight train, so he is also not comparable to red skull and aloysha. All we see is wolverine punching black panther across the face after tackling him and there is no indication black panther is harmed. And its not like black panther was expecting it either.

All I've said is the instance with red skull and Alyosha is a low showing...And it is. Most street levellers (depending on your definition of street level not sure if you're counting people like iron fist) won't get by the suit by punching however there are other ways (I can list those other ways if you are interested?). I am not saying he is invulnerable but I don't think red skull, Alyosha or beast (just to bring things back on topic) can punch him out in his vibranium suit...

Can the vibranium suit be destroyed with enough blunt force? Absolutely. Does beast have what it takes? I would say no. Beast can get by it by slashing along the grain but black panther would beat him before that point.

Posted by pooty

@jashro44: All I've said is the instance with red skull and Alyosha is a low showing...And it is

Killmonger also hurt BP when they had their hrs long duel and wolverine was able to knock him back. i don't think BP has to be aware of the attack for his suit to work. That is now 4 examples from low powered people showing the suit does NOT absorb all kinetic energy. if it did he wouldn't fall or be sent flying

I already stated he wasn't invulnerable and vibranium has its limits

That is what I said in my very first comment. So what were you disagreeing with? All my examples are in canon comics.

Does beast have what it takes

Not once did I comment on the outcome of the fight or if beast has what it takes. Poster #6 thought beast had no way to hurt BP. I merely corrected it.

Can the vibranium suit be destroyed with enough blunt force? Absolutely

Cool

Edited by jashro44

@pooty:

Killmonger also hurt BP when they had their hrs long duel and wolverine was able to knock him back. i don't think BP has to be aware of the attack for his suit to work. That is now 4 examples from low powered people showing the suit does NOT absorb all kinetic energy. if it did he wouldn't fall or be sent flying

He wasn't wearing his vibranium suit in this fight. It was a tribal challenge. Again wolverine never hurt him so I don't see your point.

That is what I said in my very first comment. So what were you disagreeing with? All my examples are in canon comics.

My response was about Alyosha and Red skull specifically. Those showings are PIS specifically. There his 2 lowest showings and they shouldn't be used to judge a character.

Not once did I comment on the outcome of the fight or if beast has what it takes. Poster #6 thought beast had no way to hurt BP. I merely corrected it.

Cool

Than we can agree.

EDIT: Also rereading Geoff Johns avengers I am not sure if black panther was even wearing his vibranium suit against skull. He was wearing a gas mask despite the fact his suit has built in chemical air filters in it. I have heard rumors that the story in question takes place shortly after his fight with iron fist so maybe he hadn't even remade his vibranium suit at this point...Its either that or WIS I would say.

Posted by pooty

@jashro44: Again my original post was only to clear up that BP suit does not absorb all kinetic energy. Whether he was hurt is a moot point. No kinetic energy means no physical force can hit you. BP has been hit many times by all levels of people. Whether he should have been hurt is another topic

Posted by CaptainMarvelThunder

I think Beast would win.

Posted by dimitridkatsis

Can't believe this still here, c'mon guys Panther wrestles rhinos and kills werewolves.

Edited by pooty

@jashro44: Is tchalla currently using the vibranium suit?

Posted by jashro44

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Again my original post was only to clear up that BP suit does not absorb all kinetic energy. Whether he was hurt is a moot point. No kinetic energy means no physical force can hit you. BP has been hit many times by all levels of people. Whether he should have been hurt is another topic

And I was just saying that Red skull and Alyosha shouldn't be the examples used....

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Is tchalla currently using the vibranium suit?

We don't know.

I'm assuming no for the time being but its debateable. Hickman did state he didn't like the vibranium suit though so I am just going with the gear Black Panther has been shown to carry (teleporter, energy daggers, cloaking device, force field projector, and we know that his current costume is insulated).

With that said the OP has specified it in the OP. So he has it here.

I think Beast would win.

He wont win. Beasts only impressive combat showings are against wolverine who is usually holding back a lot. Probably due to their friendship.

Posted by pooty

@jashro44: Tchalla was wearing the suit in his fight with killmonger. Tchalla states that in battle. I think ALL fights should be counted. only using high feats doesn't tell the whole story

Edited by Thewhitecrownofphoenix_stormforever

Seriously Black Panther is more badass than Batman. Little Wayne watches his folks shot down by a punk sits there crying, T'Chala watches his father being assassinated picks up a gun and shoots the assassin out a window.

Omg little wayne. That is my brothers nickname lol.

Posted by jashro44

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Tchalla was wearing the suit in his fight with killmonger. Tchalla states that in battle.

Which fight are you talking about? The one under Priest or the one under Hudlin? He only stated he was wearing it under Hudlin but in the same fight killmongers knife broke when he stabbed him and he never ripped it apart in that fight. I don't recall it being stated he was wearing the vibranium suit during the fight between killmonger and black panther in priests run.

@pooty said:

I think ALL fights should be counted. only using high feats doesn't tell the whole story

So why take his lowest showings and use those as a measurement? Thats like you asking me how durable wolverine is and me responding with "he got punched out by mister X and dropped by a nerve strike from daredevil"....It just seems misleading. We know those are low showings so its not the kind of feat you really reference to educate people....

Posted by pooty

@jashro44 said:

@pooty said:

@jashro44: Tchalla was wearing the suit in his fight with killmonger. Tchalla states that in battle.

Which fight are you talking about? The one under Priest or the one under Hudlin? He only stated he was wearing it under Hudlin but in the same fight killmongers knife broke when he stabbed him and he never ripped it apart in that fight. I don't recall it being stated he was wearing the vibranium suit during the fight between killmonger and black panther in priests run.

@pooty said:

I think ALL fights should be counted. only using high feats doesn't tell the whole story

So why take his lowest showings and use those as a measurement? Thats like you asking me how durable wolverine is and me responding with "he got punched out by mister X and dropped by a nerve strike from daredevil"....It just seems misleading. We know those are low showings so its not the kind of feat you really reference to educate people....

1) The one under Hudlin. The suit didn't rip but Tchalla got hurt by a very low powered person....for the third time.

2) Fixed: Why take his high showings and use those as a measurement? That's like you asking me how durable wolverine is and me responding with "even an attack from the phoenix force couldn't KO him..... It just seems misleading. We know those are high showings so its not the kind of feat you really reference to educate people...

using all repeated canon feats gives the full story

Posted by jashro44

@pooty: There is no indication he was harmed in the killmonger fight he was just knocked around. And we even see killmongers knife break when it tries to stab the suit....Even if he was hurt here than there would still be other showings to debunk this. And so far by my count its only twice. The red skull showing was debunked. He couldn't have been wearing his vibranium suit because the vibranium suit has been established to have chemical air filters in priest run and yet in Geoff Johns avengers he needed a gas mask.

Right to left.

As for your other questions you didn't take into account all of his showings which is my issue...And why this conversation started. You just looked at the low showings.

Posted by pooty

@jashro44 said:

@pooty: There is no indication he was harmed in the killmonger fight he was just knocked around. And we even see killmongers knife break when it tries to stab the suit....Even if he was hurt here than there would still be other showings to debunk this. And so far by my count its only twice. The red skull showing was debunked. He couldn't have been wearing his vibranium suit because the vibranium suit has been established to have chemical air filters in priest run and yet in Geoff Johns avengers he needed a gas mask.

Right to left.

As for your other questions you didn't take into account all of his showings which is my issue...And why this conversation started. You just looked at the low showings.

I mentioned the iron fist fight in my original post. you chose to only see red skull and kraven. The post is still there. Re-read it. So i wasn't just looking at his low showings. and BP has always taken a beating whenever he has fought Killmonger. It's obvious Killmonger was dishing out as much as he was taking. And that was a very powerful chemical red skull was using. Tchalla could have just wanted extra protection. until it is PROVEN it wasn't the suit(which he was wearing most of the time at that point) i'm saying it was the suit. But use whatever scans/showings you like. i'll do the same

Edited by jashro44

@pooty: Alright than sorry for the misunderstanding...

The gas mask was for regular sleeping gas. Despite the fact his suit had already resisted gas in issue 16. For whatever reason he couldn't have had the suit. That directly contradicts what Priest had established.

Posted by CaptainMarvelThunder

@jashro44: I think beast is faster stronger and has enough skill to win still. But I could see Black Panther winning too.

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