Depending on what you mean by "Morals On" I can see either or Soloing
Have to disagree on this neither could solo Morlun. He would tear them to pieces. If Midnighter could BFR using doors then yes but without BFR there's no way he can solo Morlun!
Midnighter can drop him from the upper atmosphere right on top, that won't count as a BFR.
Even if he did teledrop him. How is that going to effect someone who tanked the whole Wakanda's (most advanced kingdom on the planet's) defense's without a scratch:
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Ah. I did not know he had that feat in store. Still, its debatable.
I'm digging the way this is going to be honest. I like Grayson and the fact that he's been made to show to have some natural talent in a more explicit way than he had before i.e. the body language reading, appeals to me. Obviously it seems that he's going to be ripping a bit off Shiva and she's going to be teaching him how to read the people's moves, because that's her shtick and I'm guessing that its going to be develop for a trait that he inherits.
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Did anyone else get the feeling that Dick Grayson as Robin had a better chance against Lady Shiva than Batman? She pretty much makes a mockery of Batman then tells Dick that he has more potential than Batman could know what to do with.
And for the record, Batman was poisoned, he wasn't just beaten by Lady Shiva. She didn't on the other hand poison Grayson and pretty much played with him all along. She said he had potential, but no that fight isn't a legit "feat" in any manner of speaking. Not implying that you were saying this to be the case, but I know its bound to come up at some point in this thread/site.
His parents died when he was 15, so when did he become robin? at the age 15 or 16.
Yeah he was taken in at the age of 16. I don't know when he'd have been a Robin, but I'd assume a couple of months after that, so still within the same age.
@Haaydrian: I think taking him int the outta atmosphere still counts as BFR. Basically anything that removes a combatant from the combat scenario.
A win by battlefield removal is when you remove him from the battlefield so that he poses a threat to you no longer. That'd be like saying Nightcrawler's teledrop is BFR, so he can't use teleporting on his opponents.
Has Midnighter ever closed a door on someone to kill them? I don't remember seeing that. If he has i'll have to remove doors to prevent a mismatch.
I can't remember, as pointed out above.
Spider-man wasn't holding back in his fights with Morlun he said it on multiple occasions that he was hitting Morlun with everything he had and could hurt him. Not to mention the only reason the fight lasted so long was because Morlun was playing with him "drawing out the thrill of the hunt" as he put it.
Yeah, I read that. I'm tired. Regardless like I said, that does nothing to counter the point I made. Which was about blunt damage.
I agree Zealot is capable of hurting him but so is Morlun. Remember he can drain people's lifeforce by grabbing hold of them!
And? He's hardly going to be getting his hands on her before she manages to harm him with her blades.
Depending on what you mean by "Morals On" I can see either or Soloing
Have to disagree on this neither could solo Morlun. He would tear them to pieces. If Midnighter could BFR using doors then yes but without BFR there's no way he can solo Morlun!
Midnighter can drop him from the upper atmosphere right on top, that won't count as a BFR.
@Strider92 said:
@Haaydrian said:
Depending on what you mean by "Morals On" I can see either or Soloing
I'm fairly confident neither of them could solo (hence they are both on the same team) what makes you say they can?
Obviously, that's why you put them on the same team. I'm not attempting to imply that you were going for a spite thread. The main reasoning for Middy is above, as well as the fact that he could close the gate whilst he's still in the middle. (I may be confusing that with Shatterstar, will have to check). The main reason Spidey couldn't get Morlun is because he resorts to blunt force damage and holds back incredibly not to mention he's incredibly unskilled -- but that's beside the point. Zealot on the otherhand uses swords that can undoubtedly cut through Morlun, so a strike from Zealot will be lethal. I'm not trying to sell this off as easy, but potentially they can solo imho.
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