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#1  Edited By Guardian_Prime

Ok Ok, I'm not trying to argue here... just trying to understand. Since when are we basing Deathstrokes feats off of Batman? From what I know(And maybe these comics make it different, don't read those and haven't gotten to play last 2 arkham series games), but Deathstroke has always been known to be too much of a match for Batman. So I'm just trying to understand why Deathstroke is so lowballed? Is there a reason? It's a rookie Batman.. doesn't that mean he lacks experience mostly? Why is he all of a sudden above Deathstroke? Is he not "the Deathstroke" yet?

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@jacthripper: Now now... You can't just talk "best tech" and exclude the anti-monitor(reality warping machine), that's a cop out. Don't pick in chose. Not respectful. And you're going to say the Infinity Gauntlet is the best tech of DCU and MCU? You must be all hyped up for the infinity war movies and thanks appearances. Don't worry I am hyped too. But I wouldn't even call it tech? More like magic? But I mean it's 50/50 really it's weird. Never the less, the IG isn't better tech wise than the Anti-Monitor. Are we forgetting about lex luthor's tech? Batman a tech? Brainiac!? Blue beetle? Overall I can't say MCU is better than DCU. These comics are always neck and neck on purpose to match with the other. I mean Hank Pym, Reed Richards, Doctor Doom and Tony are certainly amazingly smart with technology. Earth wise? Maybe their intellect is better. But to say Universal wise. No.

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@nusa105: Wow.. "With his hole"? You're defending ironman and don't even know what to call his weapon mechanics? You call it a hole... Idek what to say. Do you read comics? Or you just watch the nice pictures on the screen.

Anyway this battle was certainly one sided in the beginning but there have been some actually valid arguments for Vic. I mean let's be honest the OP was horrible and had little detail on anything we had to go off of in this fight. People are complaining about the boom tube method and I understand with the spamming of that idea it is annoying. But then how can you agree with "ironman sends out 50 of his robots mentor"? Tbh I'd agree with the boom tube method more than that because the boomtube is immediately accessable in his arsenal. And if we allow both to happen what do you think is coming first? I'd give money that the boomtube works before iron mans drones even get there. I'm not the most versed in either so idk if everything being said is true, I'll look into it. Perhaps most of you are just distracted by the fact that Cyborg was on the Teen Titan kid show, many people these days base their feats off of movies and tv shows. We also can't assume that Ironman has his celestial armor or crap like that. That's like saying Superman vs Captain Marvel, but oh wait if it's Superman 1 million he wins. Cyborg to mean is more adaptive to the situation, that being kinda instinctual with his cybernetic ability but he's fairly young. Tony maybe not as capable as say wanting to create a weapon through adaptation in a fight but more of a technician in a fight, quicker thinker(yes even though he's not half computer like cyborg) and more experienced. Though I heard there is an ironman that can create weaponry "in a pinch" like Blue Beetle can. But OP doesn't state what kind so I'm going with a stand suited ironman we've seen for most his time in the comics. Still am not convinced who'd win.

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@czarny_samael666: Oh this is great if you think these feats are above Brainiac... Is hacking ironman a suit THAT big of a feat or something? Shit Blue Beetle could probably do that. Probably Cyborg if it's regular Ironman. Brainiac is already a high level being... So what Ultron did a feat that Brainiac was already at? Jumping from 1 body to another is a strong feat? I watch the Strain, the vampires in there jump bodies. Woah... They must be able to beat brainiac. None to little of these feats are impressive

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@18hunt: Lmfao fast match? That's ridiculous

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@dogsoldier88: Iron man has little chance with most armors. 100 class strength doesn't matter in this factor idiot. He's not facing a brute. He's facing tech. Who the hell cares if he can only lift a trunk or 3 tons? What are they throwing trucks at each other? No... Blue beetle is able to blast planets and beat on Green Lanterns. The scarab can infiltrate (possibly, I know Tony's tech may be advanced enough to defend) Tony, it infiltrated OMAC Prime which is DC earths most threatening technology. Where's iron mans arsenal stand there? Can ironman self heal as well as blues beetle, not sure tbh. But beetle can. I mean ironman is out teched(standard or even most armors). And if the beetle takes control, instead of Jaime its slim chance for Tony...

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@darkraiden: Deathstroke beats out Loki IMO. So idk why include him. DC has Brainiac, very high threat with prep, though so is Kang. Larfleeze can bring in a whole corps. Lex can be considered Dooms equal in some aspects. Black Adam on Onslaught could be interesting IMO. Blackheart is a huge problem.

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Well Doom>Lex any day, though neither will be in this fight.. js lol.

But Deadpool and Deathstroke is always a tough one though I give it to Deathstroke being more so well versed and using 90% of his brain. And with prep Deathstroke has shown some fine feats.

Sabre-tooth and Ra's is also tough though I feel Sabre-tooth to have more durability and strength but with the prep included Ra's I feels knows way more strategically and has more experience in battle. Ra's could pull it off if he's able to not be overwhelmed by Sabre-tooth.

Kraven and Deadshot are nice because I'd like to see who is hunting who? Deadshots accuracy is way higher so he can easily pick off Kraven, though if Kraven happens to bring this H2H I feel he wins.

Bane I really haven't informed myself with him without venom, I know he's stronger than Bats even without it. Red Skull just isn't too impressive IMO. So this is just a toss for me, possibly going with Bane.

DC>Marvel 7/10

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@uchiha454 said:

This is basically Hal vs superman Darkseid wins

Lol... worst logic ever.

@atrocitustheferocious said:

i think darkseid might have a slight chance in this battle his omega beams are more powerful than atrocitus blood like acid. but atrocities can heal quicker. he might be able to throw darkseid in deep space he can fly out of deep space while darkseid can't. and atrocitus survived his heart being taken out so hell survive the omega beams.

Atrocitus's acid blood ripped a hole in reality. Omega beams feats are so inconsistent.. they've been deflected by so many. They both had their hearts ripped out before.

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Darkseid should be able to stomp any Lantern say for guys like Mongul (nabby), Larfleeze, Superboy-Prime, Cyborg Superman, any Black or White Lanterns and Any of the Lantern Entitys of course.

Are you saying Darkseid can stop Larfleeze? If you're saying these are the ones Darksied CANT beat well then you're proving that Atrocitus wins if you're saying he can't beat any black lantern when Atrocitus took on 4.