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#1 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

Given that these are Angry Marines, I predict that Batman's head is going up Deathstroke's ass while the other male members of the group get wedgied and crotch kicked to death while they do...ever so typically 4channish things...to the women.

Angry Marines, going by the 1d4chan stories, are effectively invincible because they represent the rage filled homicidal fantasies of neckbeards. They don't really make much internally consistent sense with regards to 40k and generally just go around hitting a mofo with another mofo while swearing like LoL players.

#3 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

The Abomination should be the strongest here so as long as he doesn't get mobbed and gets the luxury to pick his fights, he should come out on top (when he isn't jobbing like a pansy). I'm not familiar with his post-ressurection self though (I heard he was revived last year, anyone can tell me about that?) but hopefully here he can finally come out on top and get the respect he deserves for once.

That being said, he's in for an amazing fight here, and the Thing at least can let Blonsky know he was in a scrap.

This is between Thing an' Abomination. The other two are goin' down.

She-Hulk goes fer Thing an' tries ta punch him, but he blocks, then he throws a quick jab to her face an' stuns her, then he throws a left hook to her face, an' then punches her with a straight right which sends her flyin' into a truck, an' the truck gets pushed back a bit an' falls down. Then She-Hulk gets herself out, an' jumps t'wards Thing an' roundhouse kicks him in the face, but then Thing grabs her an' body slams her. Then he grabs her again an' does a suplex on her, an' then she gets up an' punches Thing a couple 'a times, but then Thing grabs her fists an' headbutts her. Then he punches her in the gut, an' then double uppercuts her in the chin, which sends her flyin' backwards, an' gets smashed into a buildin' an' the entire buildin' falls down on her.

Then Colossus goes for Thing, but Thing already gets the upper hand an' punches Colossus in the gut, an' knocks him to the ground with a haymaker, but then Abomination comes an' says "I am going to tear you two apart!!!" an' then Thing says "izzat a fact? Let's see about that, pal!" an' punches Abomination in the gut, an' grabs him an' body slams him. Then Colossus tries ta punch Abomination, but Abomination grabs his backhead, face-plants his face to the ground, stomps his head to the ground, an' then he sees Thing tryin' ta punch him, but Abomination grabs him with his right hand an' holds him, an' then Abomination picks Colossus up with his left hand an' knee-kicks him in the gut, body slams him to the ground, an' then he punches Thing away. Then Colossus gets up an' punches Abomination in the face a few times, but Abomination grabs Colossus in a bearhug, an' he aint lettin' go. Eventually he breaks Colossus's back, an' then just super-football kicks him away, sendin' him flyin' miles.

He gets KO'd when he lands on the ground. Then Abomination says "so much for the "mighty" Colossus. Now, I got to find Grimm, and I will crush him like the worthless eggshell he is" an' Thing is back an' says "funny…I wuz thinkin' the same thing about you" an' punches Abomination, which sends him flyin' backwards, but Abomination smashes his hands down to the ground, an' he stops.

Then Abomination jumps t'wards Thing, but Thing punches him down to the ground, an' Thing says "how do ya like that, pal?" an' keeps punchin' Abomination to the ground an' says "y'know, mebbe I aint no blasted Hulk…" an' keeps punchin' Abomination to the ground an' says "….an' mebbe I aint as strong as you are…" an' keeps punchin' Abomination to the ground an' says "but it takes a whole lot more than bein' above my weight class ta beat me, the idol 'a millions!" an' Abomination gets up an' says "yes, Grimm…" an' punches Thing to the ground, then stomps him in the gut, an' keeps pressin' Thing down to the ground an' says "you got some guts, Grimm. Not even the Hulk himself fought me with such courage. And that is exactly why I am going to tear your guts straight through your throat!" an' Abomination keeps pressin' Thing to the ground, but then Thing punches Abomination's leg, which hurts Abomination an' Abomination let's go 'a Thing.

Then Thing rushes t'wards Abomination an' says "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!!!!!!!!" an' punches Abomination in the face with a haymaker, then he punches Abomination in the gut, then he punches him in the chin with an uppercut an' sends him flyin' backwards. Then Abomination comes back an' punces Thing in the face with a haymaker, an' then at the chest with a straight right, but b'fore Thing gets sent flyin' Abomination grabs Thing's foot an' body slams him. Then Abomination picks Thing up, an' then he says "I'm really tired of this, Grimm. This fight ends NOW!!!!!" an' punches Thing with an uppercut as hard as he can, sendin' Thing flyin' miles an' gets BFR'd.

I want Thing ta win this….but Abomination is just too big, strong an' powerful. But at least Thing comes second.

*Claps* We could always use more writers here on the vine.

#4 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@clara_mass: Most of the vine's characters throughout it's history were expies of established characters in ye olden days. Now we tend to be more original or hide it a bit better.

This is just a throw back to when we were very obvious with who we were ripping off.

#5 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@clara_mass: Well back in ye olden days there was a team that was a straight up transplant of the justice league. Not even a name change, just...the justice league in the Prime universe.

#6 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: You're the one who can't spell and dismisses arguments out hands just 'cause without providing any serious calculations or actual quantatization or analysis of feats other than "Legendary Godzilla is bad". So if anyone is bringing failure into this debate, it would be you.

GxMG Goji's best feat is slowing down a pseudo-black hole, which cannot be an actual black hole because for one thing; it didn't swallow the entire planet like a real black hole would nor would an actual black hole do anything but grow when met with a feed of energy. Yes Godzilla defies physics, but if it doesn't quack like a duck, walk like a duck, or look like a duck, it's probably not a duck. Otherwise, GxMG Goji didn't do anything terribly out of line with what Godzilla does normally besides one instance of blur motion and leaping really high.

He shows no especially super-impressive strength feats by Godzilla standards and his beam, judging by it's effects on buildings, is not super-powerful either. Megaguirus is really just that much of a wuss. She was a glass cannon. The moment she started taking hits, her entire gameplan started falling apart and she was hurting badly within a handful of minutes.

Kiryu Godzilla's beams are not particularly powerful; certainly nothing in comparison to Hesei or Final Wars Godzilla. They are flashy with the pre-beam flare up, but judging by the damage they do to known variables (tanks and buildings) they don't display anything to suggest that they are more powerful than what Legendary Goji outputted. In addition, Kiryu Godzilla is a dumbass who's prone to just standing around and taking hits repeatedly. And was ultimately bested by having silk spewed on him and getting drilled before being dropped off at sea to presumably die.

GxMG Godzilla, while potent given his Spirit bomb tanking feat (still less impressive than walking off Castle Bravo to the face); again only showed particularly amazing beam feats when he was specifically powered up by King Ghidorah's lightning. In addition, all of GxMG's opponents were quite weak. Baragon got kicked around like a dog, Mothra at best annoyed GxMG and felt every serious hit she was dealt, and King Ghidorah got the crap beaten out of him until he was charged up by Mothra transferring her spirit energy into him. And even then, none of them actually did him any lasting harm until a drill missile opened a hole in his shoulder and he blew himself up. Which says more about his internal durability than his beam.

Final Wars Gigan's cluster-beam is very unimpressive. Final Wars Godzilla didn't even flinch from it, and it's explosion radii and effects place it on par with a spread out artillery barrage. That Final Wars Mothra was lit up like a roman candle by this speaks very badly for her durability with regards to energy attacks. Final Wars Godzilla is granted; still perhaps the most powerful Godzilla (though debatably Marvel or IDW Godzilla is his superior) and Gigan put up a good fight (only when helped by Monster X though and upgraded , pre-upgrade Gigan got punked like a bitch), but Final wars Mothra is by comparison not really impressive.

#8 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: Megaguirus got cut up by flying on GxMG's spines and had her spike crushed by a meagre application of pressure and combusted into flames upon taking a single atomic breath shot.

Megaguirus has zero durability.

Every millenium incarnation of Mothra combusted when hit with an atomic heat ray once their deflective scales were worn out. Final wars Mothra burst into flames when hit by Gigan's cluster rays, which are about the equivalent of a large number of regular artillery shells. Tokyo S.O.S Mothra was incinerated when she tanked a direct hit from Kiryu Goji without her scales to deflect his breath ray.


Also, thank you for conceding defeat by giving up the argument.

#9 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: Femuto is more or less as big as Goji is and was completely outmatched in a shoving match. I know you hate the movie but you're using jade tinted glasses to see everything while blinded by your irattional Hatedumb.

And yes, skin does break from blunt force attacks, maces and hammers are very much bloody weapons to use as you smash people around and smash open skulls and skin, especially from monsters with scythes for hands. When Gigan whacked at Showa Godzilla with much blunter scythe handsm for a few minutes; he started bleeding. When the Mutos whacked at Godzilla for well over an hour; he didn't even have any scarring on his body. Indeed I'd rate the Mutos above the majority of Showa Kaiju, with the exceptions of King Ghidorah, Godzilla himself, and Mecha-Godzilla.

The Male Muto was batted around like a fly every time he was hit by Godzilla. Once Godzilla recovered he was back up in a few seconds, no signs of injury or inconvenience besides annoyance. Whenever Godzilla isolated them; he overpowered them with casual ease. Which makes sense because he shrugged off a 15 megaton nuclear bomb to the face (the only nuclear bomb detonated in 1954 at Bikini atoll was Castle Bravo, which due to complications with testing; exploded with ten times it's intended force, the Captain's "kilotons not megatons" statement is inaccurate).

The cloverfield monster was killed by the hammer down protocol. This involves using completely regular munitions in no way capable of leveling manhattan. It wasn't even MOABs, just regular bunker busters that the Mutos would have shrugged off. And Bunker Busters most certainly don't break cities (otherwise there would be no point in inventing the A-bomb). In addition, the Cloverfield monster demonstrated no feats of strength, no feats of agility, no fighting skill, no nothing. I wouldn't give the Cloverfield Monster good odds against the MCU Abomination or MCU Thor, nevermind an actual Kaiju.

Going by what they ignored (15 megaton nuclear bomb to JDAMs at most), Godzilla is literally millions of times more durable. Given that Clover was killed by heavy conventional munitions (but nothing even MOAB sized, nevermind a nuke) I'd say that Godzilla would kill him in a single blow. The anti-ship missiles used by the US Navy to no effect on Godzilla would have killed Clover in a few hits; while the bombardment dropped on Femuto would have similarly murderized Clover.

Now; Measuring from the Golden gate bridge; as someone pointed out, 150 meters is a lowball estimate for Godzilla's height. He's more akin to 700+ feet tall upon reseeing the relevant gifs of him near the Bridge, and would thus be far heavier than my original estimate of 80,000 tons. This also makes Femuto and Male muto even bigger.

Male Muto would be 400 feet, or in other words; towering over even Hesei Godzilla and Final Wars Godzilla, and would comfortably mass in nearly as much as all the Clovers here combined. Femuto would mass in in the hundreds of thousands of tons, while Godzilla would weigh in at about the same range. To put this in perspective, cloverfield weighs 8000 tons, while Godzilla would come in at nearly 300,000 tons. A Shih Tzu is larger to a human in comparison than Cloverfield is to Godzilla. And ten Shih Tzus cannot meaningfully threaten a fully grown human's life.

So Godzilla weighs several times more than all of the Clovers here, walked off munitions that would have turned Clover into a corpse, and is a far superior fighter.

Clover is screwed. He's a good solo monster, but he's a pathetic weakling even compared to Pacific Rim Kaiju; the weakest of whom needed six days of conventional bombardment (including bunker busters) and three 20 kiloton tactical nukes to kill.

#10 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@_gaff_ said:

@king_saturn said:

I wonder how strong Godzilla is ? I mean relatively speaking can it lift several times it's own weight or are his arms too small to really get hold of a massive object that size ?

Doesn't really matter when you can break the laws of physics.

Well it does matter as the Godzilla character doesn't really have arms that would allow it to hold something that is heavily massive in size like it's own body. The drop kick is an example of just crummy effects. I don't know how they would have Godzilla holding up a 100,000 ton object with those little arms.

Physics are for non-giant reptiles.