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#1 Posted by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@grimoire said:

@blacklegraph : The Hulk has been shown on numerous occasions that he can direct and localize a Thunderclap thus saving people from being killed while in the immediate area of what he needed to use the move on. This could allow to direct his motion.Tying him up and doing it would work if he was a stationary target and not moving. A lot of Wonder Woman's enemies have found there way around the Lasso so why couldn't WWH?

Again, you forgot that there is no air in space. That was the entire point of my reply. Just like if there was lightning in space, there would be no thunder because there is no air to superheat.

Did you not read the initial post? I said a concussive force can work in space if there are components of the blast that involve light or other kinds of electromagnetic radiation, (Gamma being one of the most powerful of all known radiation types.) those components will travel through the vacuum of space but not have as much concussive impact that earth-bound waves would have.

I admit this is theoretical mind you but it is possible. Just repeating there is no air is what was in dispute so I added the theory to explain it. You are right about Lightning but its not a radiation type like Gamma radiation which has been used to explain many of the Hulk incredible feats over the years.

@owie said:

@grimoire said:
@owie said:
I'm not sure it would actually work to give him thrust. But he certainly couldn't maneuver well, if at all, and it would take him out of the battle long enough for me, at least, to consider it BFR. Or, alternately, she could just fly him up into space and toss him into the sun.

I'm not thinking about her throwing him with a lasso, just her arms. The lasso is a whole 'nother option.

@owie : It is indeed theoretical but I was thinking of a concentrated Thunderclap in the opposite direction possibly while in the very outer limit of the atmosphere since WWH does think fast about tactics.

Also Superman tried the fly into space while trying to hold Doomsday and it didn't work at all. Speed wouldn't be a factor in flying as it is known Wonder Woman cannot fly nowhere near as fast as Superman.

Remind me what happened when Superman tried to fly Doomsday into space and why it didn't work? I quickly scanned through my TPB of that and didn't notice anything like that other than a point where he made his spines grow out of his back, which is obviously not relevant here. But I could be missing something. It may be a later version of Doomsday than the arc I have.

WW can't fly as fast as Superman but she can still fly pretty darn fast. I agree it would be somewhat of a risk, he could fight back while flying to some degree. That's probably an example where she'd be better off lassoing him up first.

The thing with the thunder clap is, it's a unidirectional expellation of force, at least as far as I understand it. So it wouldn't move you in any particular direction.

During the Death of Superman arc when he grabbed Doomsday to fly up into the sky but he broke Superman's hold just like the Hulk would do to Wonder Woman. She is strong but he has access to a lot more especially if he see's he needs it going up into the sky.

Also Hulk's gamma power has let him do some crazy physics bending things like grabbing Dr. Doom's shield like it was a solid, crashing through a glass window that should have sent him into another dimension, as well punching through time itself to name a few. lol

#2 Edited by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks good.

#3 Posted by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@ostyo said:

@theacidskull: What? You gave this a positive review?! I'm truly shocked. :P

You should be, I'm critical of my hulk readings.

Can't wait to read this.

#4 Edited by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio
@blacklegraph said:

But there is no air in space for him to make a shockwave from. He would just spin himself around in circles because it's one hand pushing against the other.

Even thinking tactically, there's nothing he can do to prevent WW from tying him up and tossing him. Her speed is much too great for him.

@owie said:
I'm not sure it would actually work to give him thrust. But he certainly couldn't maneuver well, if at all, and it would take him out of the battle long enough for me, at least, to consider it BFR. Or, alternately, she could just fly him up into space and toss him into the sun.

I'm not thinking about her throwing him with a lasso, just her arms. The lasso is a whole 'nother option.

@blacklegraph : The Hulk has been shown on numerous occasions that he can direct and localize a Thunderclap thus saving people from being killed while in the immediate area of what he needed to use the move on. This could allow to direct his motion.Tying him up and doing it would work if he was a stationary target and not moving. A lot of Wonder Woman's enemies have found there way around the Lasso so why couldn't WWH?

@owie : It is indeed theoretical but I was thinking of a concentrated Thunderclap in the opposite direction possibly while in the very outer limit of the atmosphere since WWH does think fast about tactics.

Also Superman tried the fly into space while trying to hold Doomsday and it didn't work at all. Speed wouldn't be a factor in flying as it is known Wonder Woman cannot fly nowhere near as fast as Superman.

#5 Edited by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

A concussive force can work in space if there are components of the blast that involve light or other kinds of electromagnetic radiation, (Gamma being one of the most powerful of all known radiation types.) those components will travel through the vacuum of space but not have as much concussive impact that earth-bound waves would have.

Meaning if he produced and even more powerful version of the Thunderclap he could theoretically stop or reverse his motion in space sending him back down to Earth where he would not fall for it again. Since WWH can generate an aura of Gamma radiation at will it would work.

Also this is to say WWH wouldn't expect her to try this method in the first place as her lasso isn't invisible and he can think about strategy based on what she brought to the fight.

I'm surprised Marvel writers never used this method in the Hulk comics. lol

#6 Posted by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: Agree completely on all points. Also its been shown that even in the earlier Hulk comics his gamma radiation has allowed him to to do some pretty physics bending things like actually physically grabbing Dr. Doom's shield and break it like it was made of play dough.

In a newer arc while he was transformed after waking up during an operation to help Banner and easily shrugged off adamantium bullets and broke through glass that should have send him to a different dimension. It is possible he could break Wonder Woman's lasso.

#7 Posted by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@grimoire: too bad. A man directing Wonder Woman? There are so many wrongs here.

A man created her character in the first place and besides why would anyone who hears about any movie for that fact checks to see if the director is female or male? You can just guess at the comments from such conversations.

Fictional examples are:

"Batman's new movie is being directed by a woman so its going to be bad for sure since she will most likely get him to talk about his feelings for most of the movie."

or

"I don't know...a male director for the new Black Widow movie. Its all going to be T&A fan-service I bet."

These would be idiotic thoughts that somehow find their way on to some message boards that I completely disagree with. Like I said gender should not be in the equation for work.

#8 Edited by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@superguy1591: Receiving accolades isn't the same as being talented. It doesn't bother me, I just don't see why it's so important that a female direct a superhero movie about a female. It shouldn't matter.

Feel the same way. Gender should not decide a job and that works both ways.

#9 Posted by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

Already pre-ordered from the initial trailer. This is just gravy. lol

#10 Edited by Grimoire (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulk465: Agree with all your posts on this. The Hulk should not be underestimated.