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@dccomicsrule2011 said:

Alrighty then. I must say, that was as one of the greatest attempts at low-balling and hating on Wayne I've ever seen; good job son, I applaud you.

Don't bait me..AND back out at the same time.

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@jnr6lil said:

Macklemore & Eminem have both admitted to white privilege in Hip-Hop.

Then why have so few benefited from it?

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@poisonfleur said:

Are you kidding me? I find her relationship with Yukio to be quite the read and it's a ton better than most official Marvel couples.

Your a Storm fan though so obviously you loved her with or without this pointless relationship.

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@static_shock said:

@itsomething: Well, at the time, I didn't agree with the way the Staff had things set up here. More importantly, Babs and I had a disagreement, and she kinda wrote off what I was trying to tell her when it came to mods banning people who are supposed to be perma-banned. Her and G-Man felt that everyone should be treated like a new user whenever they made a new account with the same IP address as the last account that was banned. I didn't exactly agree with that, and as a result, I took off.

Spike was one user who constantly came back, and I constantly banned him as a result because he wasn't supposed to be here. At the same time, I was biased against him, so I admit that I didn't treat him the same as other users. But, it's whatever.

Damn I hate when I don't get my notifications!

wait, you're a mod? and whose Babs?

Babs used to be Staff on this forum.

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Kim in all categories accept maybe money. Paris is an heiress I don't know how much her inheritance is in combination without how much she's made just being alive.

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@goodluckkid:

This is going to be my last post, after this you can agree to disagree, or rebut, (or at least attempt to) form a rebuttal to this post; either way, I won't be making a large reply, if any.

Then i'm not going to waste my time writing out a lengthy response and i'm sticking to my opinion on his lyrical ability.

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#7  Edited By GoodLuckKid

I can't say i've never been disappointed by Marvel before. You remember Iron Man 3 don't you? The trailer was better than the movie by a longshot.

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I don't really see how or why Static would need to the power of flight to make this a sure thing he's going to win anyway. The fact that Danny can dodge regular blasts doesn't really mean anything because Static is a massive energy projector he can just increase radius of his attack keeping there from being anywhere for Danny to even dodge to.

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@dccomicsrule2011 said:

If you honestly read the book, instead of speaking out of ignorance, you would know wouldn't you?

How could I speak from a place of anything else but ignorance if I haven't read the book? I'm not making any statements about what's in it or even about the author, but because I haven't read it and you're using it as some sort of validation all I suggested is that the author's assessment of Lil Wayne could be invalid or biased. How would I know? I didn't read it. I was just making the statement that as a human being just because you have a title it doesn't take away your ability to be both wrong or biased.

For me? it isn't. As I said before, those were easily off the top of my head.


"The young heart attack, I spit that cardiac"

Is this line above is supposed to be an example of one of Wayne's "good lines"? If so do you not see how that's a very basic punchline? Making the obvious connection between heart attack and cardiac as in relating to the heart? What impressive about this? There's nothing underlying and it's easily understood. Wayne has ALOT of lines that are just like this, where he's making obvious ABC connections between words and they happen alot more often than they don't. He will literally write songs full of them, example (6 foot 7 foot): "swagger down pat call my shit patricia", "two bitches at the same time\synchonized swimmers", "black and white diamonds, f_ck segragation", "Young Money running sh_t and ya'll niggas, runner ups". "I lost my mind, it's somewhere out there stranded", "I beat the beat-up, call that self-defense", "swear man I be seeing through these n_ggas like sequins", "these maf_ckas talking crazy like their jaw broke", "the fruits of my labor, I enjoy'em while they're still ripe", "bitch real g's move in silence like lasagna" "Money too strong, pockets on bodybuilder". Many of the lines that I didn't put here simply aren't punchlines. There are a few impressive lines like "Got the Girl Open cause she's open when you twist her" where he's making a connection between getting high (twisted), something like a bottle being opened by twisting the top off and the girl being open as in getting her high because he's more likely to smash that way (open) & "I think you stand under me if you don't understand me" where he's drawing a parallel between your intelligence and his but also making a play on the word understand but if you actually look at the lyrics of this song his two verses are more filled with those basic ABC punches than ones that offer a more explanation to be understood and you can pretty much do this for alot of his songs, I believe. A few good lines with alot of throwaways.

The way Wayne strings together his rhymes are not simple, as they DO pack substance. "I'm a Young Money MILLIONair tougher than NIGERIAN hair" is not simply put together. I can bring up literally thousand of others diplyas of Wayne using impressive lines like that and even times when he has rhymed 4 words of a line with four words in the next.

Come on now. It's an impressive display of lyrical skills.

This is the basics of understanding how a metaphor works. Millionaire is only there to rhyme with hair and he's only saying that he's tough and using something known to be tough to reinforce it, what's impressive about that?

Because it doesn't actually prove anything. You're just throwing out a statement without actually proving why Lil Wayne's rhymes lack substance. Using the failure of random battle rappers proves nothing in regards to Wayne's usage of multi's.

It's not specifically about Wayne but it proves they can be used wrong. There's levels when it comes this style the same way it is when we're talking about punchlines, there are simple multisyllable filler lines and there are simple punchlines.

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@dccomicsrule2011 said:

A bunch of people coming to the realization that someone sucks isn't a cliche.

No, I said it has become cliche to hate on him. Back when Tha Cater II dropped, no one was saying Lil Wayne sucks. People were actually giving credence to him being the greatest rapper alive. All that changed Post Tha Carter IV for whatever reason though, not it's cool to say Lil Wayne sucks.

I don't think I misunderstood you. I think it just looks that way to someone who is a fan of the artist, I think many people who think he sucks can actually break down why they think so and aren't just on the bandwagon. Nobody was saying Lil Wayne sucked when the Carter II dropped because he didn't, he does NOW! Lil Wayne was actually one of my favorite rappers before Carter III or no, favorite might be too strong but I could at least listen to him without facepalming. If people keep saying you're wack chances are you are. For someone you're comparing to Nas & Jay-Z nobody else that gets those comparisons suffers the same level of criticism for their lyrics.


No, but it makes him an expert of the English language and which is what rap is; poetry recited over beats.

Doesn't keep him from making points that are invalid or being biased.

Really? If you really listen to his music, finding a punchline should be hard.

"I'm busy I got paper to reel in God I hope they snappin' at the end of my rod

And I hope I'm fishing in the right pond, and I hope you catchin' on to every line"

---Best Rapper Alive

Quick Draw Mcgraw I went to Art-School

----Fireman

"Attention All Shooters, I'm a shooting star, life is just a game and I'mma shoot for par"

---Nightmares at the Bottom

"The young heart attack, I spit that cardiac"

---Best Rapper Alive

Finding one that's GOOD is plenty hard. I can think of alot just off the top of head, many of them are corny.


Punchline rappers don't have many ways of setting up the part of their lyrics that's supposed to be clever.

That still doesn't make what they do "easy"

Easy in comparison to other styles of rapping, I don't mean in general.


Rapping in multisyllables doesn't prove anything if there's no substance

As I said before, rap is an art-form, and it's about expression. Just because you don't like what Wayne rap about, that doesn't make him bad technically.

Substance is subjective, technical rhyming ability, isn't.

Subject matter isn't what i'm talking about when I say "substance".I'm saying anyone can rap in a multisyllabic pattern if they are making a bunch of simple word associations. By substance i'm talking about contents, and when you break down what he's actually saying is it really that clever.


and in battle rap which is completely based around lyrical ability, alot of multisyllable rhymers were constantly critisized for using multisyllables

Where was this exactly? And what does this deflecting have to do with anything I've said? You're just throwing out random statements without breaking down why Wayne is sh!tty when professors and other legends have said the opposite.

This isn't deflecting, this is me pointing out that in an area of hip-hop that is based strictly in lyrics was once full of garbage multisyllable rhymers who abused the style and most of the time made no sense. How is that random when I'm trying to disprove the use of that style being proof of Wayne's technical ability? You ever watch Grindtime? King of the Dot?