GoldenGuardian

Cannot hear you at the sound of cyclonic torpedoes exterminating this heretic thread.

@eredin12 said:

Madara pretty easily. Omni Man is slower in combat seeing as Madara scales to Naruto dodging point-blank light and could keep up with Guy who was bending space.

+ Nolan has literally zero answers to any of his hax. TSB, Soul rip, Genjutsu, etc, you name it. I see people are still posting travel speed feats when it comes to combat speed though

So if you dodge a friend moving slowly a laser pointer you are FTL?
Naruto is dodging madara's movements, he's not dodging light

Goku becomes the new robin

@lastmaninplanet:

Morgan la fey tried something like that and couldn't kill sentry for good.

(it's a little unclear what happened there, though)

Dr Doom

@cosmic_demon:

I don't understand what's the point having a strong verse. Naruto has become awful after the pain arc, just when power levels up scaled to mountain size.

HxH has the lowest power level and its in my opinion one of the best shonen ever made

I'm actually surprised that someone thinks naruto feat is LS, furthermore, there is not something like dodging light, because you cannot see light before it hits your retina. Sun rays travel for 8 minutes before reaching our planet, you still cannot dodge sum beams by reaction, because you see them the moment they hit you.

IMHO naruto is dodging madara's movements, using precog to figure something dungerous is coming from his mouth, there's no evidence that he's reacting to light, even if madara attack is lightispeed

I'm actually surprised that someone thinks naruto feat is LS, furthermore, there is not something like dodging light, because you cannot see light before it hits your retina. Sun rays travel for 8 minutes before reaching our planet, you still cannot dodge sum beams by reaction, because you see them the moment they hit you.

IMHO naruto is dodging madara's movements, using precog to figure something dungerous is coming from his mouth, there's no evidence that he's reacting to light, even if madara attack is lightispeed

Guys... If you really want to use real life physics to discuss about comics, at least use them the right way.

Any macroscopic object moving at relativistic speed in a medium like air would cause chain nuclear reactions, so I'm a little annoyed of people using science to calculate a black hole pull on a comic character, or guestimating the material of a planet and cherry picking scientific informations when they don't fit the general narrative.

IMHO dodging a light beam won't make you faster than light, just a little faster than the guy who is shooting laser at you.

OT: naruto seems faster, but it could depends on the way the scene is directed. Neither of them are light speed, furthermore, both of them use some form of precognition.

@heatforce: cap's shield would resist, it hasn't been damaged by anything less than skyfathers