Deadpool win the majority of the time
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BEING PURE GOOD DOESNT MEAN THE STARE WONT WORK....DR. STRANGE WAS GOOD, ANGELS ARE GOOD. U CANT GET MORE PURE THAN AN ANGEL. AND THAT SCAN IS THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. THAT WAS WEAKER VERSION RIDER THAT WAA BEING CONTROLLED BY THE HUMAN HOST.
The only ppl that penance stare have no effect on is individuals who have no soul, blind, or insane such as deadpool. The penance stare didnt work on venom because of the symbiote. when a symbiote attaches to a host. The host usually loses himself which could be called "insanity" thats wht it failed on venom. It also failed against daredevil because he is blind. Thor doeant meet any of those requirements. Even if thor has nevered hurt anyone for selfish means. He isnt immune to the stare. He used it on dr. strange who haa saved the earth many times. He is a super hero and was almost killed by the stare. He also used it on an angel who was sent from heaven to help the rider fight Satan. The ghost rider killed the angel (who was trying to help him) with the penance stare. Thee is no reason to assume Thor is immune to it when beings of greater power can be affected
bloodlusted Bishop wins, scott nor Havok could really overpower Bishop, and tactically he's up there if not past cyclops. He seriously gave Cable a run for his money. But specifically using their powers against bishop they already know is a bad idea.
1. it won't hurt bishop at all
2. he amplifies their powers and make it his own, although the summer's boys can't affect each other they can be affect by other people, it's very doubtful that cyclop or havok could simply shake off an amped blast from Bishop. Gambit is more agile than anyone else on that team, and his reflexes are second to none.
3.If he's allowed to go Death as part of him being bloodlust... this is really no contest.
Without going death, he could easily take Havok in a fight. Cyclops i believe would beat Gambit handily.
The big problem here is Bishop but i would imagine Bishop would take out scott first because he's the leader, Havok is simply not on Scott's level or Bishop's tactically.
I wouldnt say he is a TRUE god because thor can be killed...the one who gave the ghost rider his powers is the TRUE god. AS IN THE GOD. Thor and Herc isnt that high compared to THE GOD. I cant post scans like i use to so i cant counter scans anymore. But the Angels that have been hurt by hellfire and penance stare were from heaven. That alone put their soul at a higher tier than Thor
True, I do not know much about Ghost Rider, but my post was mostly about how we really have to examine every single factor in a fight before considering a victor. While I am a bit of a Thor fan (though I prefer the mythology over the comics), I believe both have a chance of overwhelming one another. It is possible that they could trade wins and losses. I was mostly trying to address the fact that people say that because Ghost Rider or Thor defeated one person who defeated the other, that it means that they would be the victor in the fight. It is quite possible for a character to be able to defeat someone incredibly powerful but get curb stomped by someone significantly weaker because of terrain value or a general weakness, whether physical, mental, etc. If you can offer constructive criticism or build upon a post, that's fine, but disregarding someone's comment and calling it nothing really doesn't further discussion.
sorry if i insulted u.....but when i said ur post meant nothing it was suppose to mean that ur post is very easily countered because of the lack of knowledge of ghost rider.
Hellfire has hurt many ppl who dont have mortal souls. Hellfire have also hurt demons who have spawned FROM hellfire. Thor souk means absolutely nothing. Explain why hellfire hurt demons and angels. They dont have mortal souls.....but they are not immune to ghost rider hellfire. Lets say mjonir can absorb hellfire. That may be possible since mjonir can absorb magical attacks. Whats to stop the rider from telekinetically igniting thor in hellfire ibstead of shooting hellfire. And hellfire will hurt thor. The only reason why it didnt hurt thor before is 2 reasons.
1. THAT SHOWING BACK IN THE 70'S WAS A WEAKER VERSION GHOST RIDER. SINCE THAT TIME GHOST RIDER HAS GOT A MAJOR POWER INCREASE.
2. THAT WAS A JOHNNY BLAZE CONTROL RIDER....NOT THE ACTUAL SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE. THE DIFFERENCE IN POWER BETWEEN A HUMAN CONTROL RIDER AND THE SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE IS JUST AS LARGE AS BANNER IS TO THE HULK. THERE ID NO COMPARISON THE TWO. DONT THINK THAT SHOWING IN THE 70'S ARE SOLID GROUND TO STAND ON AS FOR WHY HELLFIRE WONT HURT THOR.
The way ghost rider is now cannot be compared to back then. Hellfire will burn thor....penance stare will incapacitate thor. And the chains will immobilumize thor. But nothing thor has shown will be enough to damage the rider unless u wanba talk GOD-BLAST. Which ghost rider wont give him time to do
U made a long post but it meant nothing cuz ur knowledge of ghost rider is poor. It doesnt matter whether or not Thor has hurt ppl for malice or whatever because the penance stare will hurt him regardless of whether it was for good or bad reasons. He will feel pain of everyone he has ever hurt mentally, emotionally, or physically. Which is more than enough to incapacitate Thor. Another thing is that Ghost Rider is immune to physical damage. Thor physical blows wont do nothing but piss the ghost rider off. Mjonir will have very little effect on the rider unless he summons lightning or some magical attack. Even then he wont do much damage because Dr. Strange couldnt even hurt the rider. Thor magic isnt gonna help him much here at all. Hellfire will for sure hurt thor since it was more than enough to hurt World War Hulk.....who i believe have more durability than thor. And ghost rider also have the mystical chains to incapacitate thor if he wants to
I guess im gonna have to make a defense for team 2 myself. Neither memver of team 1 can overload Bishop unless he LETS them. Cyclops overloaded bishop because bishop didnt want to fight back. He could have easily just released the energy back at scott but that would have killed him and everyone around them. So instead he attempted to absorb. Gambit speed and agility can dodge team 1 attacks and he can easily counter with his throwing cards. Unlike the optic blast and.havok's plasma. Its not so easy to dodge gambit throwing cards because of the blast radius