@King Saturn said:
I have read what you said... it's not very convincing... that is the point.
to say a man is not deserving of a title shot just because YOU think the competition he defeated before he got the shot was crap is subjective... you already know their records before they fought Jones... most of these men was either on win streaks or have respectable names... just because YOU think the opposition he faced before he got a shot at the Belt was weak... we have been over this several times...
if my argument was solely based on fanboyism... then why are you having to put down legit fighters just to make your position felt more reputable ? why are you saying things like Bader was a No Name in the UFC when he was one of the best young talents in the UFC before he fought Jones ? Why are you saying that a man like Vladimir was a no name when he had a 24 - 4 record before fighting Jones and then getting beat by Jones ? It's sad that you have to step over decent fighters just to say one man is Overrated... sure, they may not have been the cream of the crop at LHW at that time... but they was still skilled fighters... and Jones dominated them... this idea that you have that Jones in no ways should have gotten a Title Shot is absurd... he had a good winning streak or dominance... and even after he won the Belt he made up even more ground by handling, Rampage, Shogun, Machida...
The point of our discussion was why does Sonnen deserve a title shot while Jones did not at the point of his fight with Shogun ? It was who was more deserving of one... the reality is that Sonnen looked bad against Bisping and The Spider... while Jones had ran through his opponents...
at this point I don't care what you think about my argument... if you think I am a fanboy of Jones or whatever... all I know is, it's pretty screwed up that you would step on guys like Bader and Hamill and Vladimir to say that aren't that good... when they have quality careers at that point before fighting Jones... regardless if they was Championship Level fighters.
Obviously you haven't but then I'm not surprised since acting like a brick wall and refuse to see anything that doesn't paint your hero in a positive light, there is a difference between not being ready and crap competition and the fact that YOU can't tell is all the more telling that you're not reading anything or you're just dense and trying to have any form of conversation with you is pointless on my end as I've already wasted enough time trying to talk to you
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