I'm glad you liked it. And judging by the reviews, you weren't alone but it just didn't work for me. I wanted to like it because I was really looking forward to it. I also thought Jessica Jones was a little overrated. I had to force myself to finish both Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. I thought both were a little slow paced for me. Although I thought Jessica Jones had a good menacing villain in the Purple man.
@geewhiz: Too bad for you, because as a black geek, i loved it. And though you may not understand the nuances of navigating black culture, it was a pretty good show. Were there misstep sure, killing cottonmouth so early i didn't like personally and the whole brother thing seems to come out of left field, but in terms of the plot it was believable, but all first seasons to any show have those missteps.
There was nothing wrong with the relationship between Pops and Luke, as explained through flashbacks, Pops was a former criminal reformed and helped those people who needed it. Luke appreciated the fact that Pops respected his privacy, hid him, saw that Pops was doing good for the community and trusted him with his secret because he was worthy of it. it doesn't take long at all to build trust, and black barbership culture varies but there are some places that don't allow you to swear.
Yes, I made a very similar comment on Yahoo. No, I don't think I missed the point. Most "white savior" complaint are bogus. To me, it's just like "cultural appropriation" in that it is a attempt to vilify natural behavior.
Why do many American films that deal with a foreign culture have a white male lead? It's not because of some nefarious evil white man plot to steal other people's culture and make it their own or to show that other cultures are "done wrong" and need a white man to save them.
It's because they are an American film that is targeted for an American audience. That's really the simple reason. It's the same reason why Hong Kong films usually feature and all Asian cast and when they deal with Americans, it's done from the perspective of the Asian lead. Take a look at movies like "Once Upon a Time in China and America" and the "Ip Man" movies from Donny Yen. In the past American was mostly white, so most films will feature a white male lead. As America diversifies, we'll naturally see more diversity in our films and TV shows.
Please don't take offense at this, since I'm not specifically addressing you. One of the reasons I really don't like it when a non-Asian tries to lecture me on "missing the point" about race issues is because it feels like a "white savior" is trying to save me from myself. I'm the one that has the life experiences of being an Asian in American (and yes, I have experienced lots of racism in my 53 years of living) but I'm being lectured by a young non-Asian kid about why I should be offended by something I'm not.
To me, the world already has a lot of real racial issues but let's not make things worse by making up fake things to be offended about.
BTW, I've just watched two episodes of Iron Fist and I like it a lot. To me, it's a lot better than Luke Cage which was a huge disappointment for me. I hope the rest of the episodes continue to be as good (Luke Cage just got worse for me). It looks like "The Hand" is the villain in this show and they seem very mysterious and dangerous. In Luke Cage, it just seems like Luke was way too powerful for the simple gang villains in his show. Hopefully, Luke and Danny will have great chemistry in the upcoming Defenders show.
I like Finn Jones as Danny Rand and I feel really bad at the crap he went through on Twitter. I also like the actress who plays Colleen Wing and the actress who plays Joy.
Is the negativity about how the show is handled or another PC thing about the character not being Asian?
Cause I'm hearing more about the PC crap then anything about the show itself.
Which is stupid to begin with. Considering that Danny Rand has always been a Caucasian from the very beginning. So suddenly making him Asian or whatever just for some PC nonsense, is rather silly IMO.
The negative stuff I'm hearing seems mostly about having a white male cast as Iron Fist. As an 53 year old Asian male (American born of Chinese descent) who is a long time comic book fan since the 70's, I have no problems and approve of the casting of Iron Fist. He's a white guy in the comics and should be played by a white male.
I'm really sick and tired of the social justice warriors creating needless controversy. A lot of the complainers aren't even Asian and I think it's ridiculous when they try to lecture me on why I should be offended. The whole concept of cultural appropriation is stupid. People have been adopting elements from other cultures they have encountered throughout history and every race/culture has done it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
You commented on another article about this didn't you? I read this exact response word for word someplace else, and it seemed, that despite your ethnicity, you missed the point of why people were upset about the cultural appropriation and the "white savior" character that tends to happen (just like in The Last Samurai for example). It's one thing to imitate, it's another to adopt it as your own and show it off as "see, you were doing it wrong", which is the vibe some get from the "white savior" character. Now I"m not saying I agree with the arguments or even that having Danny Rand be of Asian decent would help (I feel that it would be a lose/lose and be accused of stereotyping). I just can see their point.
I don't know, I heard GREAT things about Luke Cage and I was disappointed.
I'll wait and see what actually appears with Iron Fist.
I was really disappointed with Luke Cage too. I didn't like the writing (stuff like the "swear jar" to make it seem like Luke and Pops were really close but they only knew each other for a couple of months) with a lot of bad dialog. The fight choreography was really bad (it reminded of 70's TV shows) and Diamondback's costume was really something from Saturday morning TV show. I thought the guy who played Cottonmouth was good but overall the acting was surprisingly bad. I thought it was all style and no substance. Plus, it was kind of boring -- I had to struggle and force myself to finish watching the series. Which is a shame because I was really looking forward to it.
Is the negativity about how the show is handled or another PC thing about the character not being Asian?
Cause I'm hearing more about the PC crap then anything about the show itself.
Which is stupid to begin with. Considering that Danny Rand has always been a Caucasian from the very beginning. So suddenly making him Asian or whatever just for some PC nonsense, is rather silly IMO.
The negative stuff I'm hearing seems mostly about having a white male cast as Iron Fist. As an 53 year old Asian male (American born of Chinese descent) who is a long time comic book fan since the 70's, I have no problems and approve of the casting of Iron Fist. He's a white guy in the comics and should be played by a white male.
I'm really sick and tired of the social justice warriors creating needless controversy. A lot of the complainers aren't even Asian and I think it's ridiculous when they try to lecture me on why I should be offended. The whole concept of cultural appropriation is stupid. People have been adopting elements from other cultures they have encountered throughout history and every race/culture has done it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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