The Fallen One vs. The Silver Surfer

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#1  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

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#2  Edited By warlock360

id go with the fallen one...but thats a really hard one....

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#3  Edited By Sliver Gambit

the fallen one

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#4  Edited By acewasp23

yeah the fallen one would win.

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#5  Edited By VSU Dragon

This one comes down to the fact that these two are based on different powers. The Fallen One is not The Power Cosmic rather Dark Matter. This battle comes down to the fact that we do not know that much about The Fallen One. We really have not seen what it is that he can really do. All I know is The Fallen One was defeated by Peter Quill. I'm sorry, but Peter Quill would not stand a chance against Surfer. Also in Annihilation Fallen One was unable to put up any sort of a fight against Vs Tenebrous and Aegis where as Surfer was able to destroy them the second time they fought. The first time Surfer was able to more than hold his own against them.

I'm sorry, but looking at what limited information we have on The Fallen One I can not see him defeating Surfer when he couldn't even defeat Peter Quill.

My vote goes to the Silver Man.

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#6  Edited By Valkaad

I am basing my decision on very limited information, but if Thanos was able to "subdue" Fallen one enough to make him his herald then I think surfer curbstomps him! Even as powerful as Thanos is, he would never be able to dominate the surfer enough to make him his herald.

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#7  Edited By Hyper Beam

yeah that had to be the fallen one

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#8  Edited By Hyper Beam

yeah that had to be the fallen one

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#9  Edited By Eternal Chaos

I'm not too sure about the Fallen one. Would one of you kind people mind telling me more about Fallen one?

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#10  Edited By never give up

Fallen One.

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#11  Edited By Baby Vegeta

I'd give it to the Fallen One

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#12  Edited By The_Scourge
never give up said:
"Fallen One."
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#13  Edited By ChompOnThis12589

@VSU Dragon said:

This one comes down to the fact that these two are based on different powers. The Fallen One is not The Power Cosmic rather Dark Matter. This battle comes down to the fact that we do not know that much about The Fallen One. We really have not seen what it is that he can really do. All I know is The Fallen One was defeated by Peter Quill. I'm sorry, but Peter Quill would not stand a chance against Surfer. Also in Annihilation Fallen One was unable to put up any sort of a fight against Vs Tenebrous and Aegis where as Surfer was able to destroy them the second time they fought. The first time Surfer was able to more than hold his own against them.

I'm sorry, but looking at what limited information we have on The Fallen One I can not see him defeating Surfer when he couldn't even defeat Peter Quill.

My vote goes to the Silver Man.

Most definitely. Silver Surfer takes this for sure. But if you go by feats then Surfer doesn't just take it he completely obliterates The Fallen One.

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#14  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

SS

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#15  Edited By Hyperlight

i believe the fallen was given power over dark matter THRU the power cosmic.... doesn't mean he doesn't have access to other forces. Just like other heralds... they have a main force that they deal with but they have influence over many others as well. Although the fallen one is the oldest of the heralds I think SS is purposefully his most powerful heralds. SS wins

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#16  Edited By pooty

@Hyperlight: Actually Fallen is not powered by the power cosmic. He is powered by dark matter. power cosmic has nothing to do with him. Galactus started using power cosmic after Fallen one.

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#17  Edited By jeanroygrant

Silver Surfer

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#18  Edited By Hyperlight

@pooty: Galactus's powers stem from the power cosmic, he probably used the power cosmic to give the fallen one dominion over dark matter, thats all I'm saying. Galactus has always had the power cosmic.

oh and yo user name is pippin

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#19  Edited By Korvacglobal

Silver Surfer should win here.

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FTL FTW!! Silver Surfer!!!

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Eight year old thread! Eight freaking year old thread!!

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Fallen One is the weakest herald and I'm not sure why this was ever a discussion.

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#25  Edited By 01100110

The Fallen one is said to be stronger. Surfer has quantifiable feats above the Fallen One's so he should triumph.

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@01100110: When was the fallen said to be stronger? I know Morg was said to be stronger

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@pooty said:

@01100110: When was the fallen said to be stronger? I know Morg was said to be stronger

I thought in Annihilation it was stated, trying to find...

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@pooty said:

@01100110: When was the fallen said to be stronger? I know Morg was said to be stronger

I thought in Annihilation it was stated, trying to find...

That was never stated during Annihilation. It was stated before if it was stated at all.

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#30  Edited By 01100110

@pooty: I remember it being said somewhere but I cannot find it anymore, maybe I was mistaken. Morg was the strongest only after drinking the water of life IIRC.

The Fallen One's best feats are taking a couple blows from Thanos and igniting a gas giant (as well as surviving the explosion, though he was knocked out). The Surfer has better ones.

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#31  Edited By pooty

@01100110: Morg was created more powerful then Surfer. Then Galactus depowered him. Then Morg got the well of life to gain more power....I think

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@pooty: After going through a bit of chronology I discovered Morg has beaten Surfer and was beaten by him. These two fight were both when he did not have the Water of life (I think). Galactus never did state he specifically made Morg more powerful, but it could be true. The progression seems to have been: Morg gets the power cosmic, Morg adds the Water of Life to it, Galactus removes the Power Cosmic but leaves the Water.

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The Fallen One, though a cool looking character in terms of appearance and power-type, simply doesn't have the feats to suggest he can hang with Silver Surfer long enough to pull a win. Norrin takes the victory here.

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Idk who fallen one is

But SS seems to have better feats

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@khael: He is the first herald of Galactus, before even the Surfer. Galactus gave him the power to control dark matter and use it as a powersource.

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@01100110: Yeah I know that, I read the thread before I post in

I just don't know his best feats, it's just unfair if I give the win to SS without knowing his enemy. That would be bias

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@khael: Your comment gave me cancer.

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@khael: He doesn't have many. His best destructive feat is igniting a gas giant (he was also stated to have destroyed planets before). In terms of durability he survived said explosion but he was also nearly killed by Skreet.

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