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#1  Edited By FridgeRaider

Have it start off where there is a war within the cooperative and Icon is called to bring peace.

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ICON vs. Captain Sisko

In an interview, the late Dwayne McDuffie had said that ICON had more to do with Captain America than with Superman. This is to point out the similarities between ICON from Milestone Media and Captain Benjamin Sisko from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

Appearance: Let’s get the obvious out of the way. By Earth’s standards, both are Human African American males. Both wear outfits that include the color red.

Origin:

•The stories of both ICON and Sisko starts off in a catastrophe in space which led them in an unexpected destination.

•In ICON issue #1 (Released on May 1, 1993) the Space Star liner had malfunctions which soon caused it to explode. ICON escaped via life pod and landed on Earth.

•In the pilot episode Emissary, (Debut January 3, 1993), the ship that Lieutenant Commander Sisko was on, The Saratoga, was destroyed by Jean Luc Picard (while under control of the borg) and he soon escaped with his son via escape pod. Three years later, he was given an assignment to work on Deep Space Nine.

•Back in 1839, Arnus’ Life Pod crashed on a Slave Plantation located in the American Deep South. This is the region where he spent several decades studying the culture of Humans.

•Sisko was born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana (American Deep South). His father, Joseph Sisko, owned a Restaurant where Benjamin Sisko worked at from time to time.

Occupation:

•ICON or Arnus of Terminus started off as a mediator in Outer Space or a Space Lawyer. His job entails settling disputes between opposing parties. After the Space Catastrophe which led him to live on Earth for a 150 years, he winded being a highly paid lawyer.

•Sisko started off as a Commander on the Saratoga. As soon as he was assigned on Deep Space Nine as a Commander, his job was to “assimilate” the Bajorans with the Federation and the Occupation. He winded up settling disputes between the Bajorans, Cardassians, Romulans, Vulcans and the Federation. In certain episodes such as “Dax” and “Rules Of Engagement”, Sisko was required to be an Advocate (Defense Lawyer) for his crew mates. He’s proven that he has a high level of rhetoric and reasoning skills.

Marital Status: Both Arnus and Sisko were married to a female spouse once in their lives and were soon turned to widowers.

Character Arcs: To be a conservative means to be disposed of existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones , and to limit change. To also be traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness.

•Arnus first started off as a Conservative Booker T. Washington perspective. It wasn’t until he met his sidekick and friend, Raquel Irvin, that he started to change his perspective.

•When Captain Sisko first started out at Deep Space Nine, he was always serious; aloof and very much by the book. It wasn’t until he experienced the complications on Deep Space Nine, that he started to bend the rules a little. He reacted to problems in unorthodox manners.

Expectation:

•Arnus was convinced to be a Super hero by Roquel Ervin. She said he would be a hope to all as “Icon”. An “Icon” is a picture, an image or representation. So many expectations were placed upon him. Black people assume that he would be a “Messiah” of black people. That we would ignore their crimes. Because of his generic power set, people expected him to be a black superman.

•Captain Sisko was immediately referred to as “Emissary”. An Emissary is a representative sent on a mission or errand. A spiritual leader for the Bajorans. Sisko has wrestled with this title for some time but eventually got used to it. An excerpt from an exchange between Lieutenant Dax and Captain Sisko in the episode “Accession” :

“It isn’t that bad, isn’t it? Being the Emissary?” asks Dax. “A few ceremonies; an occasional blessing…”

”I wouldn’t say it’s that bad,” replies Sisko. “It’s just hard being a religious icon.”

Affiliation: ICON is part of The Cooperative which is an alliance of 10,000 alien species and almost as many planets. The Federation is also an alliance of different species.

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#4  Edited By FridgeRaider

@moneyspider1:

I would like to BM join a team, but later on, launch his own solo series called The Blue Marvel: True Master Of Might. I would like to see him square off against the Secret Empire.

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#5  Edited By FridgeRaider

The Profile. For those of you who aren't familiar with him, hes a mutant who can look at someone and read all of their insecurities and secrets. You could find him in Moon Knight: The Bottom as well as several issues of Vengeance Of The Moon Knight.

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#6  Edited By FridgeRaider

The city that Icon and Rocket were shown, was that Dakota or Gotham?

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#7  Edited By FridgeRaider
@TheCrowbar said:
His Justice League appearances is what I mean when I say he's antagonistic. 
 
He stood on his own with Milestone Media, from what I've seen its sole purpose was to sell minority superheroes to the public, the publication seemed to have merged with DC and we see nothing of Icon, because lets face it, he's a black superman.
 

 I gotta thank Clark for these glasses!
 I gotta thank Clark for these glasses!
Powerset aside, his personality is a carbon copy of Superman. He's a Black Superman.  The fact of the matter is his original creator wrote him poorly. I've had the misfortune of reading a few of his original exploits and they're just bad.   If you want to argue he deserves a retcon and a total rebuild, I might be swayed to that, but I will have to counter by pointing out there are characters with better origins and larger fan-bases that deserve it more. Martian Manhunter for instance, Steel, the Blackhawks(Modern Blackhawks would rock!), I could go on. 
Why is it in every online discussion about ICON, someone has to compare him to Superman? If you actually read the comic, you would know that In ICON #16, they pretty much already settled that dispute.
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#8  Edited By FridgeRaider

I read Legacy.  I was disappointed to seem him wear the mask and the cape again. I thought he sort of grew out of that by the end of the mini, but I guess not. Overall, it was kinda cool to see him fight a dragon.

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#9  Edited By FridgeRaider

Did any of you guys pick up the Static Shock One-Shot?

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@fedykin87 said:

 Its been said before and I agree that he's really just a black Superman and not to well written. I think the issue with him not really being on any teams is the fact that they either already have Superman or a character very much like him (supergirl/superboy) or on par power wise (marvel/black marvel family) or other Superman-esque people.

 

 

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