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@dstick88: Not f-cking enough. I think everyone pretty much knows his origin by now; it isn't a secret.

I agree. With that it brought so much change and variety in the Spider-verse. Sigh, it was bad writing that made Otto unlikable. They wanted him to be arrogant and not grow as to rush Pete back. Otto wasn't perfect. He was a flawed hero, and that was what made him readable. The Status Quo is back. People keep on saying "not really", well, when everyone is used to Peter there can only be so much change before fans demand it back to the same. I'm beginning to get wary of this MJ + Peter for life shtick. I started reading Spider-man again with Spider-island, and I became more engaged when Superior was launched. Sadly, these changes are cash-grabs.

@godlike130: He maybe gorgeous, no homo, but he needs a mask!!!! Or glasses.

Dr. Manhattan is wearing a cyclops suit...

As much as I love the idea that Apollo & Midnighter will possibly meet Batman and Superman, I can only shudder at the thought of Batman WINNING in an encounter with the Midnighter. NO, NO, NO. It is not possible and is pure WIS with a huge urinal full of PIS.

You know what, DC's attempt to create the New 52 was a great idea UNTIL they forgot to erase certain Batman characters. Everyone else's origin actually works, except Batman's. They wanted to fit all the events from a past continuity that spanned more than 20 years into 5 little wee years. If that's the case, erase Nightwing and make him Robin. At least we could watch Dick grow into Nightwing and then root for him as he's changed into something else. Hell, Jason Todd's death by the Syndicate would have been a great buildup point for his return as the Red Hood a year or two down the line. When there's been a 5 year later storyline Damian could pop up. I think I'm forgetting Tim Drake, who's storyline is pretty good, except in TT it doesn't feel like these are kids who USED to be sidekicks. Anywho, let me rap this up and say that Dick as a secret agent doesn't feel quite right unless he's wearing a mask. Shit, a full cover mask isn't asking for much.

All you saw when you read this book was a stale relationship that should have ended a while back? Wasn't like they were married. Hell, I like Anna Maria more than MJ. NO offense to MJ,she was an amazing GF for Pete and former Wife (I'd say ex, but Mephisto just wrote that out of history), but life is full of change, and Superior Spider-man really accentuated the change in Peter's life. Ock ended the relationship in a mature manner (due to being older) and started a mature relationship with Anna maria (I ain't saying MJ was immature), but the whole back and forth between them, knowing they'll never permanently be married EXCEPT in multiverse tales, is just jaded now. Are you sure all you saw was a ruined relationship? How many times has that not happened before?

How did the guns make him different from Mr. Freeze? Him having cold powers re-defined him as a character and made him less vulnerable.

I take it fans felt this way when Robin became Nightwing during the 80's? Rejoice, he's not dead at all. Embrace this change while it lasts. The comics world will forever churn out tired stories of the same damn characters forever and ever, outliving you, me, and God.

@squalleon: sigh. This is why I love image comics; they aren't afraid to change things permanently and allow character growth. When Dick was Batman Pre-52, I felt his character had deserved that kind of change. He had reached a plateau as Nightwing and exhausted any further development as that identity. As Batman he breathed fresh air into Gotham and that budding relationship with Damian made the stories worthwhile. Now he's a secret f---ing agent. Sigh, DC is boring as hell now.