Foreverbbyily

"@Foreverbbyily: if i remember rightly though, around the time of WWH charles had only just gotten his powers back and would naturally have been weaker and if the cuckoos were holding his powers back, they would easily have been able to do so as they are a hive mind  (ive not actually read WWH) "

Is it me or is it that 
Emma is getting softer and softer 
she is becoming a baby 
since her and scott has been together 
i love Emma's sassy additude and 
scott seems to be taking that away does anyone 
else see that she is becoming soft? 

"@nikbackm: couldnt agree more, and ive just read the issues where the hellions died and yeah charles does state that a telepath as strong as Emma wouldnt of gone un-noticed if she had died "

"no i meant the diamond forms like i heard somme1 tell me that the cuckoos diamond form is flawless what does that exactly mean? "

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" @CATMANEXE said:

"you know it was a What If? story right? thats a story that whatever odd writer tells that shows how things  " could have " happened. it wasnt an actual issue of Astonishing and it wasnt by the people who write AXM either. the events showed in that book never took place. "

I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IM JUST SAYING THAT WHAT IF STORY COULD HAVE TURNED OUT BETTER AND EVERYTHING WAS WAS BACKWARDS EMMA WOULD NEVER WHAT SO EVER HARM THE STEPFORD C. "

Didn't one of them tried to kill her? ;P "

"you know it was a What If? story right? thats a story that whatever odd writer tells that shows how things  " could have " happened. it wasnt an actual issue of Astonishing and it wasnt by the people who write AXM either. the events showed in that book never took place. "

"I agree. The writers soiled emmas character in that story. "

@DEGRAAF

"k, so let me get this straight. in Astonishing x-men, someone rips out Emmas heart because she is attached to the phoenix force? "

"OH MY I can't even START to describe how MUCH I hated this comic!  This is so out of character It's almost funny.   First I'd like to say that i love Jean Grey. So don't get me wrong. But. Yes, the story takes place before the whole Cyclops'  "I'm in love with you now"-deal, so we could say he didn't actually love Emma at that moment. And then Jean comes back, who died on his hands, so it's only logical to break up with Emma because, you know, she was just a sexy woman holding Jeans place warm in case she comes back, right? Right? Oh, crap, wait a minute! Cyclops was actually with Emma when Jean was alive! He didn't even feel ashamed about kissing Frost near Jean's grave, because he wanted to act like he wanted to act and do what his heart told him to do. Oh, how could we forget about that! But if we didn't, then the writer certainly did.  The whole deal with Scott being all over Jean the second she comes back is really stupid. He told Emma himself - if he would find himself liking another woman, he will do everything to get his thoughts off her, he will bury himself in work. Does it sound like Scott? Sure. Does him hitting on Jean in her bedroom at her FIRST night at the Institute sound like Scott? Hardly. Oh, and does anyone recall Scott telling Jean that he loves her before she died? No? Yeah, because it never happened. She called him a friend and he apologized, that was it. If you don't tell your wife you love her when she is about to die, it almost certainly proves the love is gone.  And I HATE Scott standing near Jean when Emma dies. I HATE her hand on his shoulder - does the woman have no respect? Emma is dead and Jean makes her move on Scott? Christ! It stinks of "Wolverine and the X-Men" so much I want to throw up. I hate Emma in this What if, too. What the hell? Yes, Cassandra Nova has driven her insane, but what did Emma do? She fought it, she made the X-Men hate her so they would kill her and so she would not harm them. She certainly would NOT kill Stepford Cuckoos! She was driven by guilt, remember? Of her children dying on Genosha? How exactly can guilt make her kill some more of her students? Her daughters? So no, I'm not buying it. I should say that Emma's monologue about Jean being the death of them all sounded good, though.   Plus - Kitty Pryde ripping Emma's heart out - she just wouldn't do that. It's Kitty Pryde we're talking about. She's a badass and I like her a bit, but she's not a killer. Plus - after me seeing how Emma cried when Kitty died in the 616-Universe, and how they talked just before Kitty's "death" - seeing them fighting and bitching is just boring and stupid.  So: The author had no idea of the relationship of Emma, Jean and Scott and he had no idea how to write them, so he went for personality-less golems instead. "