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#1  Edited By flame_x

What the HELL is going to happen to the X-Men from uncanny x-men! This makes me fear the result of AvX like I love the Uncanny X-Men lineup! And Wolverine and the X-men better get cancelled then cuz Wolveirine should never be allowed to wear an "X" again!

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@zackattack529: sadly i agree, i loved the current x-men series and lineups of legacy, uncanny, and wolvie.

if it aint broke, dont fix it.

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After AvX is over im done with Marvel. Like yea its cool what they are doing with the Avengers lineups but why the hell are they going to F up the X-Mens lineup? like y are they bringing the past 5 X-Men to the future what the hell is going to happen to the present X-MEN? Which makes me fear the outcome of Avengers vs X-men 12, what are they just going to kill all the X-Men!?

Like this is the best X-Men lineup they have ever had right now. I enjoy seeing Magneto, Emma, Namor, Danger, Frenzy, & Magik as X-Men. Everyone's involved and present expect for Nightcrawler, Jubilee, and Jean Grey which isnt bad.

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After AvX is over im done with Marvel. Like yea its cool what they are doing with the Avengers lineups but why the hell are they going to F up the X-Mens lineup? like y are they bringing the past 5 X-Men to the future what the hell is going to happen to the present X-MEN? Which makes me fear the outcome of Avengers vs X-men 12, what are they just going to kill all the X-Men!?

Like this is the best X-Men lineup they have ever had right now. I enjoy seeing Magneto, Emma, Namor, Danger, Frenzy, & Magik as X-Men. Everyone's involved and present expect for Nightcrawler, Jubilee, and Jean Grey which isnt bad.

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See Marvel better not mess up the X-Mens squad in this "New X-Men" they have ALL the best X-Men now like i enjoy Danger, Magneto, Namor, Magik, & Emma on the team and I also like Frenzy. I guarantee they will drop these X-Men from the lineup for New X-men. :/ and on a more important note. Why in the hell would the X-Men and Avengers team up or even be cool again after the events of Avx!

P.S. I do like Jean Grey very much but if her return means putting Emma to the side then Jean can stay gone a little bit longer. And why cant Jean get a modern costume!

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@MadeinBangladesh: no one needs to die in this event bcuz if they pick someone to die i guarantee marvel will choose and x-men. like wtf!

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@OmegaHans: I know this is a little off our topic but who do you thinks going to win Black Panther or Storm? I say Storm.

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@OmegaHans said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

No. What I'm saying is that Earth's Mightiest Heroes shouldn't bounce on in whenever they feel like, the X-Men have suffered worse casualties than any of the Avengers could count. When Wanda went coockoo, the X-Men made it their responsibility to look into that, regardless of if they were planning on killing her anyways. She was a mutant threat/threat to mutants, they were there when needed. Mutants are only humans with powers, when those same Mutants are being hunted to the ends of the Earth, where are the Avengers ? Drinking coffee and contemplating on whether or not Norman Osbourn is worth all the stress. They do nothing but sit upon their high-horses and then the occasional swoop comes when they feel like it, as i said before, they judge and leave comments when they know nothing about the current situation. Mankind isn't an endangered species, Mutantkind is, Cyclops is only doing what he's supposed to do as a leader, and whaddya know ? His plans have actually worked.

The time for pointing fingers and looking for someone else to blame has long gone, though, it's not as if they don't have everysingle damned right to. It was an Avenger that brought their kind to a mere two hundred and something, Cyclops made it clear that Wanda's life would be over the minute something of the sort happened again. What has she done since her return ? Absolutely jack-sh*t. Only one mutant's been repowered since she's come back, out of the millions that were depowered, and she hasn't even made an effort to right her wrongs, she has done nothing. Nothing. Just when she happens to get some sort of bogus vision of ignoble intent, she, like all her other Avenger'friends, steps into the situation because she felt like it. Wanda Maximoff has singlehandely proven herself to be an idiot in my eyes, just like the Avengers did in #1 of AvX (it's a crap event anyways, but still.) with their silly antics. They can never leave well enough alone.

Cyclops's plans actually worked? That's yet to be fully determined. So what you're also kind of saying is, the X-Men can't cut it all too well as a superhero team anymore, they have to have help all the time now. I guess we can shout at the Avengers for not helping the X-Men against Count Nefaria a looong long time ago when Thunderbird got axed, after all he was a classic Avengers villain. Oh yes, the Avengers just sit around and twiddle their thumbs. That's why they've saved not only the whole world but the whole UNIVERSE while the X-Men had to keep building schools every time it got knocked over like a Jenga set.

The Avengers by default have saved not only the X-Men, but everyone too many times to count. Scott's the one with trust issues, not them. They know the bigger danger.

It's funny when X-fans come out and say 'well, we don't need outsiders in our X-books, because it wouldn't fit right' or 'we want to have the new mutants make room to develop their own personalities', and all this. You had that. X-Men readers for a long time had a little piece of the MU to themselves, to do things their way. Now we cry, oh! The Avengers weren't there for us! When we fought Sinister and Marauders at Muir Island they weren't there for us!' "When the Collective went on massacre they weren't there for us!" "When Bastion attacked, they weren't there for us!"

And now a familiar quote from our old friend Magneto the original mutant extremist:

My brothers and sisters...we must prepare. We must prepare to take what evolution has promised us. For the age of humanity ends now.

We've seen it before. Scott comes along and give them all the ol' pep-up, oh we don't need their help anyway...

We have a destiny to fulfill! Cause Cable said so!

Even Wolverine knows it's all full of hokey.

And by the way, we're going to have to kill Wanda. Because... well, because we're afraid she might jeopardize our plans and we can't have that happen again now can we? Say Avengers, why don't you let us handle Wanda? We'll take good care of her, we promise...

But the least you could do is try to overlook the Phoenix Force is coming back so we can become hosts to it and clean house. Yeah, there you go Scott...

Again, by default the Avengers have not only saved the X-Men's behinds, they've saved everybody's behinds! More than once! Call me when the X-Men defeated villains on the likes of Loki, Thanos or Michael Korvac. The Avengers aren't just doing this for their own gain, they're trying to stop Scott from making anymore mistakes for the sake of the MU.

As for Wanda? Hey, the night is young. We may just see what Wanda does before this is all over. And maybe that's what really has you X-fans worried...

You speak a good tale. All your statements can be countered for one ppl rarely complain about avengers or xmen being there for each other to fight THEIR main villains u just listed villains that teh x-men and avengers can handle on their own. And the x-men damn sure have saved the MARVEL UNIVERSE from various threats but ima let you research up on that. and for you to say "even Wolverine knows its all full of hokey" pls hes one of the most unwise and spaz x-men there is i could see if Storm was the one to side with the avengers then id prob give her sympathy and look at the avengers wack logic a little more closely but its wolverine. He shouldnt be leading anything. and how can u even compare the x-men handling wanda to the phoenix? And when you say we dont need outsiders in our books of course ppl dont want to see avengers in X books and vice versa bcuz if ppl are reading one or the other obviously they dont care for the other team.

Laslty, Wanda better not F up again. and when all this is said and done the Avengers and X-Men better stay away from each other because after these events I dont see anyone being friends again.

P.S. i respect ur thought but im sorry i will never be able to agree with u on the Avengers logic in THIS event.

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@Beast_in_the_Shadows said:

First of, he won't be using either the shield or the hammer. They are there to symbolize a defeat (if only temporary) of both Cap and Thor, and by extension the Avengers. Just look at the condition of both weapons. Dents, chinks and chunks broken off, neither is meant to look battle worthy but as trophies from defeated enemies. Also, it could be used to symbolize a defeat of both S.H.E.I.L.D. and H.A.M.M.E.R. tho I don't think they thought that far into it (but how cool would it be if they took advantage of the duel meanings)

The further this goes the less I see Cyke coming out of this alive. If he does live, it certainly won't be a graceful fall from power. I can get that he wants to help his people, but the methods he's chosen have made him seem like Magneto Jr. Separating mutants from non mutants won't help people understand each other. The less exposure either people has with the other, the more confusion concerning them they will have. The more confusion, the more fear. The more fear, the more tension.

Seriously how is stacking almost every mutant on their own little ominously floating island supposed to ease the minds of the ignorant who already fear mutants?

If he lives through this, I hope he realizes how far off the edge he went and he decides to take a sabbatical as leader to get his mind and priorities in order.

Well at first i was liking where u were going with ur analogy of the hammer and shield. lol then......I read further and became disappointed with ur other statements. I'm getting really tired of ppl calling Cyke Mag jr. like they are def different and stackin every mutant on one island is the safest thing for a species of less than 200 divided they fall, together they stand. And what else can the X-men do for humanity they have tried their WHOLE lives there are just too many ignorant ppl. And the Avengers are one of the most ignorant. Cyclops will survive this I just hope the aftermath is good for the Mutants. If your a die hard Avenger fan look past that and look at the X-Mens perspective, they deserve this let them finally have their peace.

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@OmegaHans said:

The X-Men win what? They long ago lost the original meaning of their organization and the dream of Professor Charles Xavier and that was to benefit humanity. Today they have all but tossed away those foundations along with Xavier with them, issue after issue (the earliest being World War Hulk I can remember shouting down and putting the professor through incredible humiliation and lack of respect), the team receding into extreme ideologies, killing squads like X-Force, and mistreatment of mutant students within their own institutions.They have done nothing but reckless actions for years simply for their own selfish desire to repopulate more mutants on Earth, M-Day did the MU favor by depowering and/or killing off a bunch unnecessary, failed ideas for mutant powered individuals.

Then we go through far efforts in the X-Books make Bishop into a scapegoat by claiming that he is a sick b***erd for attempting to kill off a mutant child that could potentially one day use the Phoenix Force to destroy the whole planet, but that's ok right because Cable says that she is instead the hope of all mutants... so just where does the non-mutant population fit into all these grand schemes the X-Men want? And then they want to get mad when fingers are being pointed at them? It doesn't help that Scott and Emma are two of the biggest arrogant jerks in the Marvel Universe, and how dare someone tell them what to do even if it is an attempt to be diplomatic to the mutant community.

How much leeway and handouts do the mutants need before the rest of the MU has to bend over backwards for them, and when are they going to realize that some of the situations the in now are just as much their own fault?

Don't jump on Cap, it could be a lot worse of a guy to deal with, like if Tony was still calling the shots!

Well I'm just gonna make my response to you as short as possible because obviously you know nothing about the X-Men. Obviously the X-Men had to make tougher decisions as more traumatic situations kept coming at them and the goal of the X-men was NOT solely to benefit humanity it was to be able to live side by side and be accepted by the humans to have a "mutualism". How were they supposed to benefit humanity if they are the next step in human evolution -_- Also the killing squads were def appropriate a little late I'd say. NUMEROUS killing squads have been after the X-Men their whole lives! When has the mutant population gotten ANY handout or help from the Marvel Universe? Where were Earths so Called "Mightiest Heroes" during the mutant massacre on Genosha, during mutant hate riots, during Sentinel and Purifier invasion? But they came to them for help during their Civil War. get out of here. Where were they for the Mutant Registration Act.

Lastly, I just had to quote you on this because this was your most foolish of many statements..."They have done nothing but reckless actions for years simply for their own selfish desire to repopulate more mutants on Earth" What reckless actions have they done to repopulate their race? Until Hope was born all the X-Mens' hopes for rebirth faded away and until the prophecy of Hope and these events of AvX was when the X-Men took action of rebirth and they haven't DONE anything reckless. If you call standing up for and protecting what you believe in reckless then you need to pick up a dictionary. The only thing the X-Men have done since M-Day was PROTECTING themselves. The X-Men deserve something good to finally happen to them. They WILL Win.

P.S. How the hell are Emma and Scott arrogant? answer that for me pls.

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