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#1  Edited By FalcomAdol

The longer Morrison is allowed to continue to work with DC characters, the closer to 100% the chance of such things happening becomes.

Someone stop him before he kills again.

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#2  Edited By FalcomAdol

Nope, this one is is a clone. ;)

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#3  Edited By FalcomAdol

I've been reading '90s era Wildstorm books lately, and Stormwatch and Deathblow (Tim Sale art from issue 3) both had prominent storylines set in the middle-east. In Deathblow you had Cray kicking off the series with an attack on Iraq (killing one of Saddam "K"ussein's body-doubles), but it featured a team of apparently non-powered presumably muslims who were "on the good side." In Stormwatch you had a story about a team of superpowered muslim extremist terrorists who attempted to blow up three major cities with neutron bombs, and the storyline centered on Stormwatch teaming up with an Israeli superpowered team.

Deathblow was a much better story. Stormwatch had a similarly badly conceived storyline running around that time about Russian extremists as well, which was pretty hackneyed but at least played into Winter's background in interesting ways. The Balkans stuff was significantly better.

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#4  Edited By FalcomAdol

Really interesting, I'll have to start with Green Arrow for sure.

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#5  Edited By FalcomAdol

Most of the best comics of the 60s and 70s are either overtly political or are set against political backgrounds. You just don't think of them as being political now because we weren't alive during the 60s during this period of social change.

Go back to X-Men, Black Panther, Captain America/Falcon, Amazing Spider-man (all inspired if not scripted by Stan Lee, and influenced by his political and social views), Man-Thing and Howard the Duck (Steve Gerber), Green Lantern/Green Arrow (Denny O'Neil)...

Without these comics, the medium would either still be reserved for children or it would be dead now.

Of course the republicans in the room just want more gun-toting meat-eating non-thinking characters. Rob Liefeld thanks you for his continued career.

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#6  Edited By FalcomAdol

Sure, they happened. Then time was rewritten by Flashpoint. I'm already over it. Why are we worried about this?

Also, the first few pages of New Guardians were clearly a flashback origin story, they happen "five years ago" or whatever. It was not well marked.

I don't really understand the mindset that would prefer to just have a map of the theme-park to pulling into the parking lot, seeing Kingda-ka above the trees, then walking through the park, waiting in line, talking and enjoying the anticipation with friends, then finally getting strapped in to experience the thrill in real-time. You want someone to tell you the start, middle, and end of the book and never get to read it yourselves.

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#7  Edited By FalcomAdol

I also really liked issue 1.

Has a very Giant Sized X-Men #1 feel to it. Team of super powered adults with their own agendas and unclear abilities brought together by a somewhat shady dude to accomplish his own questionable agenda.

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#8  Edited By FalcomAdol

For the record, I feel like "Speculators, Yo" is one of the weakest cop-outs for explaining the abrupt drop in comic sales.

There were plenty of reasons that comic sales plunged off a cliff. Speculation may have been part of it (witness the popularity and rise of Wizard at the time), but this is the period of time that introduced literally dozens of X-men books (including the limited series), and kind of kicked off the trend of doing a storyline as a limited series, alternate covers, foil covers, better paper quality and computer coloring, and along the way the price of a single issue more than doubled over the course of a couple years, and you had the widening introduction of the trade paperback (particularly out of DC/Vertigo).

People cut back on buying because they couldn't keep up. There were so many books that were related that you couldn't keep track. Right now the Batverse has probably got too many titles running, but they've at least partitioned them off pretty well and for the most part stopped the game where a storyline interleaves issues across titles.

The individual comic book issue purchaser in the 1990s found that the industry became hostile toward people who wanted to read storylines and many realized they could just wait for the trade or pick up fills later in bargain bins. Print runs were high enough that there was no scarcity on major titles (overprint). The bubble of readers who were ready to buy anything that had a teenaged mutant ninja in it grew up and went to college, and a lot of them stopped reading. Meanwhile the industry focus on more mature titles prevented young kids from getting into the hobby.

Do you remember what comic shops were like in the 1990s? They were halfway to an "adult bookstore." Most of them were selling foil packs of pornstar cards, and had Lady Death, Dawn, and swimsuit/lingerie issues at eye level for little kids. Image was breaking boundaries having nudity in books. This was that point in time when Magic The Gathering popped up too. You could get a couple packs of cards for the cover price of a single issue of a comic in some cases. Shops these days are not like they used to be. Most of them have morphed into pop-culture stores, and the adult stuff is usually tucked away up high so kids can't get to it or it's otherwise gated. There are ratings on the covers of most issues.

What comics were trying to say was "comics aren't just for kids anymore" but what they were actually saying is "comics AREN'T for kids anymore at all."

It wasn't something you could trust your kid to enter unsupervised, even here in the liberal northeast. It's no surprise the industry crashed. What's crazy is that it survived to the degree it did, and that imprints like Image are still out there, and others have managed to start up like Dynamite.

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#9  Edited By FalcomAdol

@MetropolisKid41

WildC.A.T.S also sold in the range of a million copies per issue near its launch.

I'm pretty sure speculators are driving some of the ferver here as well, because that's how a #1 issue works. However, at least most of these are good books, which makes me happy.

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#10  Edited By FalcomAdol

Hardly the 90s. In the 90s things with Jim Lee's name inside the issue were selling two or three times this.

Still, there are probably more "good to great" comics in this lineup than we have any right to. The bad are far outnumbered by the good at DC right now.

GL and the Batverse were the only* things worth reading at DC for far too long.

*only is a statement that is intentionally overstating reality to make a point, exceptions will be deemed proof of the rule