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If it did then it doesnt matter now,because there is no changing it. Superman fans need to accept that it was a plethora of factors not just bat fanatics that caused superman to lose his top spot to batman.

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It sucks that Superman unchained is ending but I dont think that it is that good anyway. There is just too many things going on at one time.AC seems more focused to me and paks superman has more personality.

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I dont see the issue here. Whats wrong with DC wanting superman to be an actual character and not just some metaphor for moral absolutism.

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@gambit474: nothing you have said has helped your point. batman doesn't need the joker batman comics could do just fine without him. you act like writers came up with no kill codes to prove a point. they didn't. originally batman killed, the only reason they added no kill codes was because of censurship. if you really think about it killing joker would be the best thing batman could do for Gotham. nothing you have said is a better option

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@gambit474: I do know what I'm talking about and I don't like the hostile attitude. when your whole argument hasn't made any sense at all. this whole argument was about whether having morals hinders being a hero. and you bring up comic book logic and say that because the law is so stupid it makes for better stories and then insult me like an angry child after I have done nothing to you

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@gambit474: the only argument you've given against killing the joker is that the writers will bring him back. if they can bring him back from the dead. what makes you think they will keep him in the phantom zone. all this shows os that superhero comics aren't about writing new exciting stories. they are about recycling the same crap over and over because people will buy it

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@gambit474: wonder woman has killed and you don't see her acting like the punisher. superman also killed doomsday and he is the same as he always was.its all about self control. your argument is invalid

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@gambit474: that's why a lot of people don't take comic books seriously because nothing matters. we know who's going to win we know the joker is just going to go back to arkham just to break out the next month. the joker is the one who commits the crimes not the cops. what's the point in having a justice system that cant protect its citizens? batman is already breaking the law, if he really wants to clean up Gotham get rid of the repeat offenders. there are plenty of heroes who are willing to kill and are still heroes. superhero comics try to pretend that they are all dark and modern when in reality they are still stuck in the silver age, where the world is black and white and where "real heroes don't kill" which is complete bs. cops are heroes and they kill when necessary.

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@gambit474: so, death is not a good enough punishment for the joker. its better to just let him live and kill more people. that's the stupidest reason I've heard yet. I see no problem with batman killing those people, they are all evil people and the world would be better off without them. if all batman is gonna do is throw them in arkham just for them to break out again and again and kill more innocents what's the point of batman. all he's doing is upholding a broken justice system, that values "morality" over protecting innocents.

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saga of the swamp thing by Alan moore. Watchmen. Sandman. Kingdom Come. its good to start with the classics.