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#1  Edited By Equonox

Scenario:

Gotham city, at night - Scarecrow's exact location is unknown to team 2 and has a ton of fear gas he's going to release.  Sinestro happens to be chilling there too, and seeks to capitalize.

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#2  Edited By Equonox

This thread is hilarious.


I have spent a solid hour of last night reading this over and then sleeping on it before I made a response.  The arguments in favor of Castle are "uh, he has a gun, and he has shot people before, so he would just shoot Batman and win".  Anyone in favor of Castle care to explain how he is any different than the countless of sure-shot assassins Bruce has punk'd in the 7+ decades of experience?  Hush? Deadshot?  Bruce has beaten individuals like these in sprawling cityscapes in which you would clearly favor the sniper.  In a sewer (in HIS domain), Batman has an even bigger edge.  Batman has a faster reaction time, a far more innate sense of tactics, and is simply more experienced in this sort of combat situation.

I would also agree with the multitude of people arguing that Castle would be unable to shoot Bruce.  The argument for those in favor of Castle have made here is "he can't dodge bullets, he can only dodge the people shooting them".  I think you should try thinking before posting something this asinine.  Yes, you are technically correct, he doesn't dodge bullets Neo-style, but his reaction time is such that whoever is shooting at him will never be able to hit their mark because he dodges "them" (their aim).  The conclusion is the same - Punisher can't shoot the Batman.  Disagree?  Here's a nice tidbit I grew just for you: Batman dodged the Omega sanction.  Only man to do it. Omega Sanction >>>>>>>> Bullets in basically every fashion (speed, accuracy, etc.).

Now, even if you are still high enough to believe Castle could actually hit Batman, the burden of proof is on you to prove he has the kind of firepower to actually penetrate Batman's armor - as far as I'm concerned, the countless shots Batman has taken like love taps seems to prove that even a shot that connects won't do much damage.  I'm assuming you will make the argument that he has armor piercing rounds, to which I say that may be true, but I'm sure that if he does he keeps them in a separate clip, which would take at least a second or two to load into his gun.  By that time he's KO'd.

I don't think anyone has forwarded the argument that Punisher could beat Batman in h2h, so I won't beat the dead horse on that.
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#3  Edited By Equonox
@Jake Fury said:
" Robocop gets an explosive batarang between the eyes before he can blink. "
To be fair, he's a robot and doesn't ever blink, so the timespan with which Bruce has to accomplish this is fairly long...lol.

Fight goes accordingly:

Robocop: "Halt. You are suspected of-" *Batarang lodged in neck*....boom
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#4  Edited By Equonox

Damn, thought the thread was referring to spartans a la Halo.  In THIS case, clearly Cap...spears, swords, and regular humans have nothing on a super soldier w/ an adamantium shield.

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#5  Edited By Equonox

Team 2 - combat XP being a key factor.
Batman is not the weak link - DP is certainly the weak link, in terms of combat XP and actual feats (he was also knocked out by a woman with a giant hot dog, mind you...).

The only arguments in favor of team 1 so far are "these two have super powers, one of team 2 has none".  Not very compelling, IMO.  Bruce has not only shown himself to be on par than many heroes/villains with powers, but has bested TONS of super powered individuals and groups throughout his history, even where heroes far more powerful than either of team 1 have failed (White Martians, Darkseid, Amazo, etc.).  Batman has prepared gear and multi-tiered combat strategies (Plan A, Plan B, Plan C...) for literally EVERY super hero and villain in the DCU via the Brother Eye project.  This includes not only metahumans with regenerative capabilities, but some that are just purely invulnerable.  This makes me think that KO'ing DP for him would be relatively easy, probably with some sort of gas or electric batarangs.

As for Spiderman, I think both of team 2 would be necessary to take him down...Bruce would probably need to use some gear to create a distraction for/disable his spidey-sense, while the combination of Wolverine and Bruce's knowledge of martial arts and combat tactics would probably overpower spidey, despite his strength/speed advantage.

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#6  Edited By Equonox

KO or to the death?  If KO, team 2 - in fact, DS may solo if that's the case; far superior fighter to either of team 1.  Better tactician, FAR more intelligent, equivalent tech.

If it's death, team 1 easy - can't kill Deadpool.

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#7  Edited By Equonox

Gandolf solo'd a Balrog "in the movies".  That's a solid feat.

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#8  Edited By Equonox
@HumanNumber:

That doesn't assume wally punching superman.  We aren't talking about who is PUNCHING but who is BEING PUNCHED here.  The force of Wally's punch is obviously pretty great given the speed with which he can accelerate his arm, but at the end of the day his physiology is still human.  Superman isn't.  Regardless of the force that Wally packs in a punch, it's still a human arm punching a Kryptonian - basically like trying to smash a brick wall with a hammer made out of legos; swing the hammer as hard as u want, i guarantee the legos break first.
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#9  Edited By Equonox
@god_spawn:

That was my fault - I actually was calling Cap dumb for allowing himself to be put on trial and be exposed. Batman is obviously much smarter. I should have been more explicit on who i was responding to...this thread is huge
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#10  Edited By Equonox

Yea, but Batman isn't that pathetic/dumb.

Batman wins.  Batman is clearly peak human as well - master strategist, knows every combat style (master level), technological genius, etc.  Cap, while excelling in H2H combat (SS serum obviously accounts for something), he has nowhere near the intellect Batman does.  At best, he is a marginally better fighter, but EVERYTHING else Batman has available to him gives him a clear edge. Heat seeking, exploding battarangs anyone?