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#1 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@mezmero said:

Loved this issue. Both Lex and Lenny ended up looking like rock stars while Batman looks like a chump as he should for this particular story. I don't see how they could end this event cleanly but I've enjoyed this as a mini series overall.

It's definitely NOT ending cleanly...April solicits make that pretty clear. More of a reason to love it, IMO - unlike most other crossovers (Marvel and DC are both guilty) it is going to have really big impacts on the DCU, major team compositions, etc.

Also - was thinking about this earlier...obviously whatever the big threat the Crime Syndicate is running from is going to find its way to Earth Prime (or Earth 1, whichever it is in the New 52)...we know that there is going to be an Earth Prime/Earth 2 crossover soon...final issue of Flashpoint had Flash having a premonition with Pandora about three worlds/universes becoming one to stop some omniversal threat...perhaps that was referring to Earths 1,2, and 3? So much fun trying to interpret this stuff haha

#2 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure what a lot of people's beefs are with this issue/series...?

Lot of stuff happened in this issue, both building a huge amount of tension/setting up for a big finish while still having a BUNCH of big stuff happen (Manta and Cold were simply badass...I totally lol'd after reading their significant scenes).

Generally, I think this series has been really fantastic. Johns is adding a TON of depth to some of the best villains thus far in the new 52 while generally moving things along at a great pace (not too fast, not too slow). I feel like this entire series is generally making the DCU more interesting...heroes are being beaten and forced to question their roles as protectors (thinking of Superman and Flash based on April solicits), "villains" are stepping up to protect the world and will even take the place of their nemeses, etc. It's refreshing to have this murky spectrum of grey being cast over the DCU characters as opposed to the black/white good/evil duality.

As far as Alexander Luthor goes, I kind of figured it was him (hadn't mentioned the Earth 3 version of Luthor AT ALL yet...kinda strange). Makes me also think the "big threat" they are running from may be New-52 Anti-Monitor...would certainly make sense given what we have seen thus far. Making me hopeful we will see N52 Superboy-Prime as well...

5/5 from me, for sure.

#3 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry wins - the only guys he can't one shot here are Thor and Hulk, but he could speed force dump them and destroy them there, or just phase his hand through their heads. I don't think either would survive that, and there's no conceivable way anyone here can even tag him

#4 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

This issue was incredibly amazing. This is setting things up for an EPIC September/October.

@bennyq said:

Such a great issue. My only problems were, and someone may be able to explain this;

SPOILERS BELOW! Writing this on my phone so there's no black boxes.

How did Wonder Woman know they were from Earth 3? They could've been clones or robots or anything. And unless I'm mistaken, the leagues aren't aware of any other Earths yet?

And if Pandora 's box is science, why did ask the magic users get affected when Shazam picked it up?

Not a problem, just a question, Are the seven deadly sins from Earth 3 then?

That was Xanadu, not Wonder Woman.

I believe the Seven Deadly Sins are from Earth 3, as The Outsider said it was the "birthplace of evil."

As far as science/magic - good question, I don't have an answer...although by the end it was everyone being affected by the box, not just the magic users.

#5 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@equonox said:

@wolverine08 said:

@marlboroman:

Deathstroke is a low level superhuman because of his enhancements. The Nth armor does increase his strength a bit, but it's pure PIS that he could even hurt Lobo (a guy that can trade shots with Superman) with his punches.

That begs the question - he's using Deathstroke's fight with Lobo to demonstrate how durable/strong he is. Your answer is: "he shouldn't have been able to because he's not that strong, thus it's PIS"...you see the logical fallacy here? You're making an assumption about Deathstroke's strength and durability not supported by evidence, and using that un-evidenced assumption to refute evidence.

Anyway, on topic...I'd take Deathstroke here - more skilled, better physicals, much better weaponry. Death Wolvie was pretty cool, but he doesn't really have any feats that set him apart from standard Wolverine, who I think would get owned by DS 9/10 times for the reasons above.

exactly although i don't see deathsroke killing wolverine at all

He obviously can't kill him but I assume KO is a possible win condition...?

#6 Edited by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Without the Power Cosmic, Tyrant gets beat here. He could definitely take out a lot of these heroes, but some of the powerhouses would be too much for him (Captain Atom, Dr. Fate, Flash, Firestorm, Wonder Woman, the Kryptonians, and the lanterns come to mind...). Herald version would be a much better fight...

@jackknight: skyfather level? Which non-herald feats do you think support that?

#7 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@marlboroman:

Deathstroke is a low level superhuman because of his enhancements. The Nth armor does increase his strength a bit, but it's pure PIS that he could even hurt Lobo (a guy that can trade shots with Superman) with his punches.

That begs the question - he's using Deathstroke's fight with Lobo to demonstrate how durable/strong he is. Your answer is: "he shouldn't have been able to because he's not that strong, thus it's PIS"...you see the logical fallacy here? You're making an assumption about Deathstroke's strength and durability not supported by evidence, and using that un-evidenced assumption to refute evidence.

Anyway, on topic...I'd take Deathstroke here - more skilled, better physicals, much better weaponry. Death Wolvie was pretty cool, but he doesn't really have any feats that set him apart from standard Wolverine, who I think would get owned by DS 9/10 times for the reasons above.

#8 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man would be the best choice...he will be Ultron's creator, plus it's the smoothest possible exit for RDJ, and we won't have to worry about a second-rate replacement.

#9 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@impossibilly I think you nailed it. Like...absolutely nailed it. I had this suspicion as well, but I think the detail to which you have guessed it is going to be surprisingly accurate.

Just one thing to add - in the panel of the "trinity" that Xanadu saw - I think it's likely that the "him" Batman/Owlman referred to is Earth 3 Alfred/The Outsider...would make a lot of sense (and you see their world destroyed, as The Outsider revealed to J'onn). All 3 characters in that panel are almost certainly shadowed and impossible to accurately distinguish for a reason.

The next two months are going to be AMAZING for DC Comics...

#10 Posted by Equonox (956 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme: I agree, my point was Fate is way more powerful than him.

@equonox said:

@moonman78: Dr. Strange failing to stop WWH is beyond PIS. We are talking about the same guy who can beat Shuma Gorath and Dormamu, omniversal threats, by himself. Fate has always been on par with, if not more powerful, than Strange.

According to Dr. Strange Hulk contains energy from "the pocket universe and others" that will tear him apart and be "the end of everything". Sounds like an omniversal threat to me!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/136540/3113661-2634678879-29795.jpg

Oh and speaking of Dormamu; Hulk with a thunderclap snuffed his head out:

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3089210

WWH is not an omniversal threat. What is any number of WWHs going to do to Captain Atom / what will they do to prevent him from de-atomizing them or draining all their gamma radiation? How will they prevent Dr. Fate from stuffing them all in a pocket universe or Zatanna teleporting them into the sun?