Enemybird

How am I low balling Sanji?

@nassergrant19: There is no known way to bypass Lunarian durability. But for whatever reason, King decided to turn his flame off and dodge some of Zoro's attacks instead of tanking them. I am not suggesting that Zoro could actually hurt King or any lunarian through their flame. But this is what happened and I am basing King's fighting style off of that.

Unless you pose the same level of threat as Zoro at minimum, I imagine that King would fight Sanji in the same way he did Marco and keep the flame on the majority of the time, thus leaving Sanji no window to win (same as Marco). As I just mentioned, Sanji thought himself being capable of being killed by Zoro and Zoro was getting rag dolled by King until he adapted to Emna and learned COC.

Sanji kicked S-shark and he was unharmed so we don't need to pretend like Sanji's kick is equal to whatever Radical beam would have inflected that Edison was concerned about.

Back in chapter 511 pre time skip Zoro was hit directly by a laser beam from Kizaru himself and was still conscious. Zoro was back on his feet next chapter 512 this was before he has full recovered from thriller bark.

Chapter 512 Brook was hit by a pacifista beam and was still conscious. 512 Sanji was hit directly and was up next chapter.

You think anyone pre time skip is going to be able to get hit with a named COC amped haki attack and get back up? NO they wont. Sanji kicking that laser was an asscrack feat. It was almost looked like a gag to me.

The trio wins.

Its not. We just don't know enough to say for sure... big difference.

I came back to this post specifically because of the anime episode that dropped today. The laser very clearly traveled to Kaku. it did not spawn on him.

What you said about Sanji was 100% fair but you are downplaying Zoro nearly defeating Lucci. "Zoro couldn't even put Lucci on his back". Lucci was harder for Luffy to incapacitate than Kizaru if we are looking at the number of named attacks.

Its bold of you to assume GB could defeat the duo at this point. As you admit GB has terrible feats. Even the feats he does have were against an injured group of sub commander level scabbards and defeated beast pirates.

The admiral hype train that as kept them relevant for decades is hanging on by a thread.

What exactly is the EOS version of Guts?

I don't think you understand how opinions work.

The King of Kings. Monkey D. Luffy.

I think the duo wins. If GB is anything like Kizaru in terms of durability, then all it would take is the equivalent of a single named attack from Luffy. Zoro should be capable of that at this point been able to defeat Lucci. Sanji still needs better feats.

@nassergrant19: That was a pain in the ass to read.

So...Sanji damaged S-Shark through his flame but a combo attack from G4 Luffy and Lucci couldn't harm S-bear? A combo from Zoro and Kaku couldn't harm S-hawk. And I am the one reading two piece? lol okay Bud.

In chapter 1035, Zoro said to King "Why even bother blocking my attacks, I thought they did nothing to you. Unless... You're scared of What I can do!!"

In the same chapter King says "I can sense the threat you represent".

This pretty much provides the only explanation as to why King might be turning his flame off.

Sanji kicking Kizaru's laser doesn't put him on Zoro's level. Thats a ridiculous statement that you cannot prove at all. Kizaru's laser does not represent anything close to an attack from someone with COC literally the best amp in the verse.

Kizaru's laser has been around since pre-time skip and it's been fodderized by several characters at this point. It means nothing that Sanji kicked it as it hasn't done anything noteworthy in the first place. Zoro managed to perma scar one of the most durable characters in the verse and just defeated a character that is more durable than Kizaru. Kizaru is doing none of that with that with a F**** laser lmao.