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Which one of Joss Whedon's TV Show's is the best?

I'm a fan of "Buffy".  I'm a fan "Angel".  I'm a fan of "Firefly".  And now I'm a fan of "Dollhouse".  Yet, I still can't decide which one is my favourite.

"Buffy" is obviously the most well known, and Joss's first project.  The stupidity of mixing villain of the week with a long term arc was a spurt of utter genius, and it worked very well.  Depite a very bad season six, "Buffy" had very good seasons (my favourite either has to be number two or five) otherwise, and was a great show: quirky and whimsical and witty and odd dialog, great actors, awesome plots, some of the best character development ever and that uncanny ability which I've always loved about the show where no character is minor.  They all return at one point and never just make one appearance.

The darker theme of "Angel" is what really drawed me in, but when I saw it still had the unusual dialog I was shocked and thought it was awesome.  Bringing back Cordelia and Angel was great, and Cordy especially grew on me and I thought she was awesome.  It had a more realistic and credible tone than "Buffy" (one of my favourite things was in season three episode "Carpe Noctem" where they all head out to retrieve the possessed Angel, and where as Wesley and Gunn are showing off with martial arts moves and stuff, Fred and Cordy just have two baseball bats and start whacking him with it) also, and it included my favourite character: Fred.  Weird name as usual for Joss, well for a girl, but she evolved from being a timid wallflower into a strong feministic role, and it was so sad when she died.

"Firefly" was awesome.  We all love it, even if you haven't seen it.  Yet again, funny dialog but different, and I swear I must have been saying "Shiney" and walking around holding my belt for like a month after I first saw this series.  Character interactions were some of the best I've ever seen, and the actors (Summer Glau - awesome!) were amazing.  The whole mystery incorporated with River and Blue Sun Corporation was so intriguing and the political status made so much sense (and the cussing in Chinese was awesome).  Followed by the movie "Serenity", (which is one of my favourite movies of all time, and I'm such a big fan of the River bar fight scene, that I've learned most of it (except the flip, can't do that)), which gave some of us some answers and more questions, "Firefly" was a short but sweet.

Currently, I seem to be the only one who's completely enjoying "Dollhouse".  The whole Alpha mystery is something I wasn't expecting, and teamed with the illegality of the whole operation has just dragged me in.  Eliza Dushku, previously Faith in "Buffy" is a brilliant actress and evolves every week, and other cast members (Amy Acker again, and Alan Tudyk and Felicia Day and Mark Sheppard soon, except the latter because he's already appeared) are awesome.  Adelle DeWitt is one of the most intimidating best female character Whedon has ever created and I seem to be in the minority of people who actually like Topher.  And even though the whole point is that the Actives don't remember their personality etc, we can still see their characterisation evolving already (especially in the latest episode, Victor and his "man reaction"), and alreadly we can see Topher's cowardess yet sadisctically creepy personality showing.

So I ask you, which one is your favourite?  I have to say, no matter how much I enjoyed it, "Buffy" was my least favourite.  But the others, I don't know.  Can't wait to hear your comments.

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Too difficult. I gotta rank it by season.

Angel s5

Pure gold. Why We Fight, Smile Time, and Hole in the World are 3 gem episodes in a row. All three are in my top 10 episodes. On top of that, we have every episode in this season at at least an 85/100. Plus we have the best series finale

Buffy s3

Slightly less pure gold. Eliza Dushku's Faith, one of the best characters, first appears here. We also have a terrific big bad in the Mayor. Every episode hit at least 83/100 and great gems like Band Candy shown.

Buffy s2

Slightly less less-pure gold.

Whilst having one of the worst episodes in Go Fish, this season was still fantastic. Holding episodes like Innocence, I Only Have Eyes For You, and Graduation Day pt. 2 the second season of Buffy is what shifted it from mediocre filler show to the top 5 best TV shows ever. Also, the grossly underused Oz first appears.

Firefly s1

Firefly is great but no match for Angel s5 or Buffy s3 and 2. Housing episodes like Janestown and the Train Job, Firefly remains forever in my heart.

Buffy s6

I have recently become a hardcore BtVS s6 defender. In my first run through, I avoided OMWF because it was a musical episode so I figured it was going to be irrelevant and tupid and boy was I wrong. Who the hell pitched OMWF and how the hell did they not get fired instantly? "Hey guys, I got an idea! What if Xander wants everyone's problems to be solved so he summons a demon that makes people burst spontaneously into song, makong it a musical, but this backfires as people die from it. Oh, also we'll have everyone sing their feelings so we can further express Buffy's dissatisfaction with life and her being in hell cause she was pulled out of heaven, Anya can further express her bunny fear, Tara will sing a devestating and heart crushing metaphoric song that isnt metaphoric, Giles will decide to leave and sing so via song, Spike will sing about loving Buffy, and some epic battle seen music." OMWF is one of my favorite episodes ever.Plus this is a season where the big bad is life! Although I didnt like the subplot of Bargaining 1&2. Tara's death gets me everytime. And the Xander/Willow moment when Dark Willow is trying to end the world was heartwarming.

Angel s1

Pretty good. City of was a pretty good episode 1. Then you have I Will Remember You, Hero, Five by Five/Sanctuary, and To Shanshu in the LA. I loved those episodes. Not in the 'Why We Fight, Smile Time, Hole in the World' way, but still love nonetheless. There were some clunkers though.

Angel s2

Contains some of the best episodes. S2 has Are You Now or Have You Ever Been, my favorite episode (or tied with the Angel s5 trilogy), and Guise will be Guise. The intro to Fred was great and the Pylia trilogy was a pretty good ending story ark.

Angel s3

Now, despite the clunky-like endong, s3 was fantastic. With episodes like Waiting in the Wings, Lullably, and Sleep Tight, s3 comes out great. Grown-up Connor is Dawn but far worse which is why it is so disliked.

Buffy s5

Once again, a good season. This season entailed a good big bad in Glory, a God from what amounts to a type of hell. This season entailed The Body, an episode often named as the best. The finale was also great. The biggest flaw in this was the introduction to Dawn, a boring, lame-ass sister to Buffy who is only ever decent during the memory wipe in Tabula Rasa (another great SEASON SIX episode).

Buffy s1/s7

Buffy s1 and s7 get a tie IMO. They both sugfer from major flaws that aren't things like introducong a nuissance of a character. The saving graces are 2 episodes for both seasons. Season 1 has Angel and Prophecy Girl, and season 7 has Conversations With Dead People and Chosen. I suppose season 1 is better as season 1 has 2/12 good episodes compared to seven's 2/22.

Buffy s4/Angel s4

Now this one is difficult. They both are majority bad episodes and both have really shiny gem within the shit. BtVS s4 has Restless and Hush, two episodes widely regarded as among the best, and Angel s4 has Orpheus and the Jasmine story line.

I excluded Dollhouse because i watched it a while ago and it's really random non-detailed memories.

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This is the order I like Joss Whedon shows in

1. Angel

2. Buffy

3. Firefly

4. Dollhouse ( But I never really liked Dollhouse to much)

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Angel, since it's the only one I have watched but im sure it's going to be my favorite when im going to watch the other shows.

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firefly!!!

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Buffy...sorry to all the Firefly fans, but the show just bored me, i couldn't even finish it

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- Firefly, better than all the rest put together

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Season 5 of Angel when he took over the LA branch of Wolfram and Hart.

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@The Dark Huntress: I don't hate Buffy or anything, but I found myself enjoying Dollhouse more than I expected.

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Firefly, without a single doubt.

@k4tzm4n said:

And for second, hate me all you want but I actually enjoyed Dollhouse a little more than Buffy.

O___o reallyyyyyyyyyyyy?

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Firefly was my Fav, followed by Angel then Buffy, I could care less about Dollhouse

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Firefly.

And for second, hate me all you want but I actually enjoyed Dollhouse a little more than Buffy.

There, I said it.

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Angel easily not even a debate

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Angel, then Firefly.
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Angel is number One. Best series that isn't NGE ever.    Then Firefly and Buffy tied. Because the last two seasons of Buffy were pretty bad.

As usual, this guy is right on the money :P
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My favorite is Firefly.

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Firefly is number one for me. Buffy in second. Angel last. I haven't really watched but part of one episode of Dollhouse. 

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1) firefly. The only reason i bought Borderlands is because of the "Janistown" mission, where you must go defeat Janis Kobb. 50 dollar game for one mission. nuff said.
2) Dr horrible's sing-along blog. i must have watched this 60 times and i still can't get enough. Brand New Day is the greatest song ever.
3) Dollhouse. i loved season 1. i haven't seen season two, but i like the entire idea behind it. plus, eliza dushku is fan-freaking-tastic.

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The best, always. <3
 
Angel was boring and had too many awful annoying characters. Dollhouse was cool. Firefly, meh.
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Angel is number One. Best series that isn't NGE ever.  
 
Then Firefly and Buffy tied. Because the last two seasons of Buffy were pretty bad.

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Firefly
 
It's not even close to a close call.

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I have to go with Buffy but, it really is close to Angel because I love Cordelia in Angel.

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1 Firefly(cancelled WTF)
2 Angel(needed another tv season)
3 Dollhouse(second season and epitaph one)
4 Buffy(can't deal with season 7, finale good the rest bad)

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In this order: Firefly, Angel, Buffy, Dollhouse,

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"Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in rutten command here."

  Oh Jayne... "
Easily one of my favorite lines! 
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@The Dark Huntress said:

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"Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in rutten command here."

 
 Oh Jayne...
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@Paragon said:
" Dr. Horrible's Singalong Blog (If that counts... It's my only connection to the Whedonverse) "
I said this forever ago, but now, Firefly has taken spot #1.
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@Renee said:
" Buffy, although to be fair I haven't seen Firefly. "
You need to.
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@Supreme Marvel said:
" Firefly. "
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Firefly, it's a western...IN F**KING SPACE!

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Ugh, Dawn is so annoying, she whines every episode. "Buffy I can stay home alone!" Buffy why don't you wanna be with me?!" Waaaaaah.
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BUFFY is awesomeeeeee!!!
 
Until Tera had that Crappy death and Buffs theatrically challenged sister arrived.

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Buffy, although to be fair I haven't seen Firefly.

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@Methos said:

"1. Buffy2. Dollhouse3. AngelI hated Firefly with so much passion i can't even give it a place in my top 1000 shows to watch....M"


I hate Firefly also, i am a Star Wars and Star Trek Fan, i love scienci fiction, still i can not watch that show. 
The best was Angel, Buffy was cool, but start goin weird after i dont know, like the thir season. 
The last Season of Buffy was really really bad.

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Buffy 
Angel 
Firefly 
Dollhouse

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Buffy

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BUFFY

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Firefly!

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Firefly! 
 
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Buffy, closely followed by Firefly.

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Firefly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!followed by pre-death Buffy & before she had a sister.

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Erm I would probably say Buffy but that might be biased by nostalgia (although I do still watch the eps on DVD). I would say Angel is my least favourite series (I really hated him when I first watched Buffy, but I think that was mainly jealousy. The character grew on me and I do like the series it's just my least favourite). Dollhouse and Firefly are both great, I really enjoy Dollhouse and don't really understand why others seem to hate it. Actually I don't think I can decide either, they're all so geat (other than Angel, which, at least in my opinion, was good but not great)

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 Firefly. 

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firefly definitely

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I loooove Firefly. Western/Sci-Fi makes a great combination. The Train Job is my favorite episode.

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1. Buffy
2. Angel
3. Firefly (I loved Serenity)
I tried getting into dollhouse but it bores me terribly...

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I disliked all of them but if I had to choose one I'd say Angel. 

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  1. Angel
  2. Firefly(I can't believe Methos doesn't like it)
  3. BtVS / Dollhouse ( Becuase dollhouse is good but hasn't impressed me enough to make the decision clear enough)
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Firefly. tragedy that methos doesn't like it

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1) Angel
2) Firefly
3) BtVS
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