Just read through some of the older comments here. I'm not mad with people who demonize Israel because I know you're all being brainwashed by the media and news channels such as CNN.
I read a comment here with someone claiming that Ben Gurion and Isaac Rabin ordered murders or exiles of Palestinians/Lybians and whatnot? I lol'd. Like, literally laughed. You should know that both of these former prime ministers were left wing. I have absolutely NO idea where you got that information from but it's not only false, it literally makes zero sense. Did you know Isaac Rabin was murdered by a right-wing extremist for signing the Oslo Agreements that included, among other things: dividing the west bank into territories marked as A (territories where the Palestinians have full authority), B (where Palestinians have civillian authority but Israel has military authority), and C (full Israeli authority). It also included Israel declaring that the PLO is not a terror organization despite all the terror attacks it was responsible for against Israeli civillians. This, and everything in these agreements was discussed, agreed upon and signed by both Israel and Yasser Arafat. You guys said he was never significant? The man was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Israeli innocents and never stopped sending suicide bombers and shooters and preaching against Israel. Just look for the Dolphinarium discotheque terror attack, the Sbarro restaurant suicide bomber, the Bus Line 300 hijack, and the list goes on and on. Not only by the PLO, but by many other organizations too such as the Jihad and Hamas.
Palestinians in cities such as Ramallah and Hebron live like kings. They have mansions and shopping malls and everything you can think of and Israel doesn't go near them because we respect our agreements. Many Palestinians have permits to work in Israel too and they make great money. Most construction workers here are Palestinians. Hotel workers. Truck drivers. They come to work in Israel by the thousands and earn honest pay. Gaza could have been an amazing place to live as well if not for Hamas seizing control over it by force. Israel gives Gaza free water, electricity, food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies. The Hamas uses it for themselves while neglecting it from the innocent people of Gaza, while teaching them that it's all Israel's fault from the day they are born. They literally have summer camps where they teach preschoolers to use assault rifles. Not to mention the millions upon millions of funds they recieve from Iran, Qatar and so on.
I also saw people saying that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians. That is an ugly lie. Just a couple of weeks ago, 2 Pallies armed with knives attacked a group of IDF soldiers from the Kfir Brigade in a checkpoint near Hebron. They even managed to injure one of the soldiers. One of the Pallies was shot dead and the othet was wounded. After a few minutes, one of the Israeli soldiers killed the wounded terrorist. No trial. Was it the right thing to do? No, it was not. But he still did it. And you know what happened? That soldier was suspended from duty, put on trial, and is to be charged with up to 20 years in prison. And what did he do? He killed a terrorist thst stabbed his friend. Would an American soldier shoot a Taliban operative that tried to kill his friend? Yes. Would any of you wise guys that have so much to say about Israel think he deserves to be charged with murder and put behind bars? Tell me that you do. Please, I dare you.
And also these so called illegal settlements? Irrelevant. If that was the only thing that concerned the Pallies, they would have carried out attacks only against those settlements. And they do, which I will elaborate later, but they don't stop there. They get to Tel Aviv. Jerusalem. Be'er Sheva. Ra'annana. Kiryat Gat. Almost every city in Israel has suffered terror attacks in the past 6-7 months alone. And those cities are not even close to the West Bank. Have you ever been in a Palestinian riot, where they hurl rocks and molotov cocktails? I have. I have friends that nearly lost their lives in such riots. Do you know what your poor peace-craving victims chant in those riots? They chant, and I quote: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free". From the river to the sea. The sea. What does that tell us? That's right. They want ALL OF ISRAEL. They won't settle for the West Bank. They want Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and Haifa and everything else between Metula and Eilat. Everything that was given to Israel by the UN in 1947. They won't settle for their half, they want ours as well. And they always have. Hence why they attacked the Jewish settlements rather than stand down and agree to what the UN council has voted. And you can't say Israel was the aggressor back in '47-'48 because Israel didn't even exist then. They have always used whatever land they had as terrorist bases of operations to send terror atracks and fire rockets at us. And the so called "illegal occupation"... yes, we took lands that were used to attack us. If someone hits you with a stick, wouldn't you take away his stick? And when you reach an agreement and you give him the stick back, and he hits you again... yeah, we didn't take the stick back. The Pallies still have about half of the West Bank and the entire Gaza Strip to themselves and what do they use it for? Terror. They keep hitting us with the stick we took and gave them back.
Any assault carried against Gaza is a retaliation to their rockets. Nobody wants their children to grow up fearing when the next rocket alarm will go off and you have to run for shelter again. Any civillian casualties in Gaza are collateral damage as a result of Hamas using heavily populated areas as human shields. Any Pallie in the West Bank that is being arrested is a retaliation to him throwing rocks or otherwise attacking Israeli civillians, because nobody wants their children growing up with the fear of going to school because you don't know when the next rock is gonna hit the car's windshield and crush your mom's ribs.
Nobody thinks Israel is a poor defenseless country. Because we aren't. We have an amazing powerful army. We could have turned Gaza into goddamn Disneyland years ago and we still can. But we don't. Because we are still hoping for peace. We are never the first ones to attack. We retaliate, and we retaliate hard. We try the best we can to minimize civillian casualties and we thoroughly investigate anything that might contradict the values of war (hence the sildier from Hebron being sentenced to jail). We are being debriefed literally every freaking day that we are NOT ALLOWED TO OPEN FIRE unless we are facing someone who has the means to kill (i.e a weapon), the possibility to kill (if someone runs at you holding a knife from 50 meters away, you cannot shoot until he is close enough for it to be life threatening), and the intention to kill (he can have a weapon and stand right next to you but unless he shows the intention of using it you can only arrest him). I bet you didn't know that Israel scatters leaflets warning civilloans to get the hell away before we send an airstrike against Hamas in Gaza. I bet you also don't know how many such airstrikes, that are targeted against Hamas based and batteries were called off because the pilot didn't want to risk civillians.
We gave the Pallies the stick and they keep hitting us with it. So don't blame us when we hit them back with a bigger stick every time they manage to hurt us.
Do any of you have any clue what goes on in Iraq and Afghanistan with your precious American troops? I can guarantee you they have a lot more blood on their hands than tbe IDF. I am willing to bet that they don't do half the things the IDF does to try and minimize civillian casualties. And I don't blame them. They are facing impossible situations, just like the IDF, and in war unfortunate things happen. But if you want to criticize the IDF, then don't forget to do the same with your men in Afghanistan. And with tbe French and the Belgians who make Muslims go through checkpoints after the terror attacks tbey experienced in the last few months. Don't forget to add an Israeli flag to the background of your Facebook profile pic after the next terror atfack just like half the world did with the French and Belgian flags when they suffered from terror as well. Don't forget that right after you weep for a Palestinian being killed after he was used as a human shield, yo weep for the hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children that President Bashar Assad massacres in Syria. Take a good long look in the mirror after the next time you apply your double standards. I want all of you who criticize Israel and read this post to look me dead on the eye and tell me you're not a hypocrite.
Russians, Turks, Georgians, and Germans have no right to invade the land of Canaan and kick people out who have been living there for a long time. Just because the USA government and Britain support this theft does not make it any less wrong.
There is no excuse for being a thief and a murderer.
Just like the Arabs and Turko-Arabs have not right to steal and murder just because Muhammad said so, neither do followers of Phariseeism(Judaism).
Jews have always lived in Israel. It's not theft. Did you know most land was empty when Jews from Europe immigrated? (Again there were still plenty of Jews living all over Israel who never left since the original creation of Israel before the time of the Romans) The only instance of people "kicked" out of their homes, was in 1948 when all the arab states told the arabs to leave their homes so they can destroy israel. People left their homes and let the Arab countries use their homes to try and destroy the newly formed Israel and the Jewish people there.
We won, the Arab nations were defeated, and the people that gave their homes to the countries trying to destroy us lost their homes because of it, it is less than 800,000 people in total. I wouldn't call that being a thief, it's called you tried to kill me and lost.
The only reason they don't have homes now? Blame the the other Arab countries and the UN for mishandling refugees. I can gladly explain to you how the UN treats Palestinian refugees differently than any other refugee on earth.
Jews are merely followers of Judaism. Judaism is religion founded in 8th century A.D. and its based on the religion of the Pharisees.
Followers of Judaism are not from the tribe of Judah, nor are they Israelites of any kind.
The pharisees added their own vain traditions to God's law while discounting the true meaning of God's law. Phariseeism does not stay true to the Bible, God's word.
Israelites were taken captive by all nations (Leviticus 26)(Deuteronomy chapter 28 through chapter 32)(Isaiah 6)(Isaiah 11)(Isaiah 43)(Isaiah 45)(Ezekiel chapter 1 through chapter 23)(Zephaniah 3)(Ezekiel chapter 33 to chapter 39)(Luke 21) . When God returns them they will come from all the four quarters of the earth, from beyond the rivers of Kush, and all the isles of the sea.(Isaiah 11)(Ezekiel chapter 1 through chapter 23) (Zephaniah 3)(Ezekiel chapter 33 to chapter 39)
God allows them to return only when they repent of their sin and rebels against God will not be allowed to enter into the land(Ezekiel 20)(Zephaniah 3)(Ezekiel 36) (2 Chronicles 7)
Jerusalem will not be desolate when they return and they rebuild the ruined cities. Jerusalem will be inhabited without borders because of the many people and livestock in it. As Israel repents to God and God restores them to their land, other nations will also repent to God and Israel and other nations will be united in the Lord. Until the people of Israel return from captivity, the land of Israel will be trodden upon by gentiles until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled(Zechariah 2)(Isaiah 14)(Luke 21).
The followers of Judaism do not fulfill any of these Bible prophesies. None of the Judaism followers fulfill the curses that God said he would put on the Israelites for their disobedience in the book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Can you name anything in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 that is fulfilled by the current occupiers of Israel?
wow you do not know anything about Jewish history.
The Pharisees were a sect of Jews (They came later on in Jewish history). There are different sects in Judiasm, but the Pharisees came in the time of the second temple and Jews were split into two sects (Technically three sects, but the third sect was very small); the Pharisees and the Sadducees (Essenes being the third). Jews around today are basically from the Sadducees as the Pharisees died out. (Sadducees were basically what all the people were before the Pharisees and Essenes came about)
The difference between them was the Pharisees decided to only go according to the 5 books of the Torah and not the Mishna or Gemara.
Judaism begin at Mount Sinai when he gave the Jewish people the Torah, but he gave them the "written" Torah and the "spoken" Torah. The written Torah is the 5 books that Christians refer to as the Old Testament. The spoken Torah is called Mishna and Gemora.
The Pharisees were a sect of Jews inside the Sadducees (which were all Jews at the time, but they were not called Sadducees yet, they were just called Jews, the name Sadducees only formed because the Pharisees formed) and decided they did not believe in the spoken Torah (Mishna and Gemara). They formed around 152 BC (There was another sect that formed called the Essenes, but that isn't important)
Even a quick Wiki check will teach you that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees#History_.28c..C2.A0600_.E2.80.93_c..C2.A0160.C2.A0BC.29
There was no such thing as "Judaism" before the arrival of Christ Jesus or after his arrival until the 8th century A.D..
The way of the Sadducees and Pharisees is to twist God's law by adding their own vain traditions while discounting the true meaning of God's law.
Not all Israelites are from Judah. That means that not all of them are "Jews". After Assyria took the northern kingdom of Israel and never returned them, Judeans were what was left. Most Judeans were taken by the ruler of Babylon to the land of Babylon but they were still able to eventually return to the land of Israel. Judeans are called Jews but not all of them are from the tribe of Judah.
In the current days, no one in the land of Israel is a descendant of Jacob. They all just follow a religion called "Judaism" that was founded in the 8th century A.D. and is based off the blasphemous ways of the Pharisees, Sadducees and other teachers of the law who discount the true meaning of God's law and place more importance on their own vain traditions.
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