Dredeuced

@Ddecourt said:

@Dredeuced: Idk, I just don't see it being anything close to that. Don't get me wrong I know Barry isn't losing easily, but I don't see him winning easy either, even less on water.

Aquaman has absolutely no shot of hitting Barry on land, and Barry has some good tools to remove the water from a limited area and then KO Arthur. Heck, Arthur would struggle to hit him if Barry was just running on the surface of the water the whole fight.

@Epicbeast3000 said:

@Ddecourt: Yes he is, flash can tap into the infinity mass, and with that he has broken armour of anti monitor

That's Wally, not Barry.

@Ddecourt said:

@Dredeuced: Nope. That's just an exaggeration, Flash will not tear Arthur apart with just a little vortex. Arthur will have an answer for the Flash, he will immobilize Barry just as soon as he sets foot on the water.

He won't tear apart Arthur with the vortexes, he'll remove the water from the playing field, then beat up Arthur.

@Ddecourt said:

@Dredeuced: In water is a different story, Flash is not beating Arthur on water.

Flash can literally blow away giant swathes of water with a vortex and then tear apart Arthur, I don't think Arthur has a real chance.

Aquaman isn't a pushover, but even New-52 Barry is way out of his league. He's just too fast and can atleast hit hard enough to hurt Aquaman through his durability, water or no.

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Dredeuced said:

The Thor rescuing Red Hulk scan specifically stated that he caught Red Hulk before he passed the event horizon, so he did not have to travel light speed to escape.

That said, he's clearly got much better travel speed than Quicksilver, featwise.

In this series of scans Rulk was actually affected by Black Hole.

Okay? You can still be affected by a black hole without passing the event horizon. For instance: we are currently orbiting a super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy, and are definitely being affected by it, and we clearly haven't slipped past the event horizon.

The Thor rescuing Red Hulk scan specifically stated that he caught Red Hulk before he passed the event horizon, so he did not have to travel light speed to escape.

That said, he's clearly got much better travel speed than Quicksilver, featwise.

Does Tiamut really count as a Marvel Earth resident? I mean I know he was "sleeping" there but that seems awfully sketchy.

@Original_Human_Torch said:

No prep for Black Adam.

Wonder Man gets an upgrade that now makes him move faster than bullet time (reflexes/agility) and flight at Mach 4.

To the KO or DEATH!

Takes place in Marvel (616) Universe, in the stratosphere...

BATTLE!!

edit: Woops, I somehow misread this junk as Wonder Woman. My bad, lol

@DireDrill said:

I love it when people don't even know they are admitting defeat.

I have shown that the Anti-Life works on most things and you have yet to show me that it won't work on Ghost Rider. Suspension of Disbelief requires that we believe that it will work unless otherwise specified. You have yet to show me where it is specified that Anti-Life won't work on Ghost Rider.

I don't think this is really a fair statement. Ghost Rider isn't in the same universe as the ALE, so clearly he can't have any ALE resisting feats. Does the ALE work on dead dudes/transdimensional demons?

Wow, way to cutoff my sentence, I said "There's nothing to indicate that Buu can only be done away with magic," don't cut off someone's sentence to completely misrepresent what they were saying.

@SirMethos said:

@Dredeuced:

1. The ability to travel between dimensions =/= the ability to travel between different universes in the Multiverse.

2. You've got a few things wrong about the Spirit Bomb.

Yes, the Spirit Bomb is pure Ki. And no, it is not an attack that "CANNOT hurt good people".

In order to use the Spirit Bomb, the user has to have a "pure heart", otherwise, the Spirit Bomb can backfire. Its is POSSIBLE for other people who similarly have "a pure heart" to deflect it, but it can still hurt them(i.e. if they don't deflect it, and instead just try to tank it), it's only possibly though, if they are of the same 'kind' of purity as the user. For example, Goku is "pure good", so in order to be capable of deflecting it, a person would also have to be "pure good". If Vegeta(after the training just prior to the Androids arriving) who is "pure evil" were to use the Spirit Bomb, Goku wouldn't be able to deflect it.

That is also why Goku can't form/create the Spirit Bomb in his Super Saiyan forms, because in his SS forms, his heart is not "pure".

Buu was not taken out by an "anti-evil attack". He was taken out by a highly powerful energy attack, with the combined Ki of everyone on the planet(and the planet itself).

Goku only ever used the spirit bomb once after attaining supersaiyan, and he used his super saiyan power to give it the final push, so there's nothing indicating he can't. I'm not sure where you got your explanation for how the power works -- Krillin hardly has a pure heart and he can wield it. It specifically can't hurt someone who is good, Gohan only "deflected' it because he needed to hit Vegeta. The spirit bomb is definitely different from literally every other Ki attack in the series, which was my point, because you specifically said "It's just a ki attack," when there's obviously a little more to it.

I think you're splitting hairs with the dimensional transport. The hyperbolic time chamber has its own dimensions and it's own wacky laws of physics in its own universe. That said, Buu only did it when he was desperate and mad so it's hardly a commonly or even an awarely used ability, and Kid Buu never did it himself. I don't think Buu is gonna be travelling any multiverse and busting it because, well, there's lots of dudes who could stop him and he hardly has the power to destroy a universe when just the combined power of one planet and some namekians took him down.