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Caio Reviews: Game of Thrones "The Mountain and the Viper"

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Oh sorry you were expecting a cohesive opening? Well I expected something less brutal than what I got. I am still at shock at what happened with today's episode and I am having a hard time recaping/reviewing the other things that happened besides the ending. This pic above is pretty much my default expression as I write this review and I barely got any sleep without seeing that image popping up everytime I close my eyes.

But f*ck it lets get this sh*t going...

At the Night's Watch

South of Castle Black, Moletown is attacked by Tormund's wildling band that absolutely wrecks the place in a effort to draw out more Rangers and thin their numbers. Jon and his friends are arguing they should be defending the villages being attacked while Sam is absolutely mortified that he left Gilly and little Sam there to be killed, though his friends assure him that she survived much worse things than these and she will certainly make through that too (true enough, when the Wildlings attack Ygritte finds her but decides to spare both her and her son).

This is something I forgot to address in my reviews... Mance Ryder has an host of 100.000 men, ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND! This is a bigger number than the Lannisters and Tyrells forces combined! It mind-boggingly that the territory between the Lands of Always Winter and the Wall is big enough to contain such ridiculously vast number. The Night's Watch is surely f*cked with an iron rod since they have barely 100 men and enemies surrounding them from both sides. Our heroes know that they are going to certain death and the only thing they ask is that their corpses are burned so that they don't rise as Wights.

In the North

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Ramsay Snow dresses Theon in his old armor so that he can arrange the peace terms with the Ironborn occupying Moat Caillin. Theon tries to reason with them, though he is having problems balancing the Reek persona with his old self. The Ironborn commander is still stubborn to keep holding the fort despite his men being besieged from all sides and running out of provisions fast, this changes when his men say "f*ck that noise" and throw an ax in his head. Though Theon assures them that no harm will come to them if they surrender, we are soon treated to the Ironmen corpses flayed and tortured since they feel to Ramsay's trap. With Moat Caillin finally taken, the Boltons are able to reunify their forces and now march to Winterfell and take their place as Wardens of the North.

Heh, I knew these guys were dead meat the second Theon said the Boltons would reward them as he rewarded him. The funny part is that the leader got off an easy death compared to the rest of his men who turned on him and surrendered. Also Ramsay is acknowledged as Roose's legitimate heir and given the Bolton surname just as he wanted for so long, which would have being a heartwarming moment if both characters were not such despicable monsters. Meh, I am still calling him Snow out of spite...

I love how Roose mentions that there has being no word on Locke since he left to hunt Bran and Rickon down and points out he might be dead, yet he then dismiss it, saying he must had succeded in his mission anyway despite no confirmation. I mean, Roose was pretty worried that if the other lords discovered they were still alive, it would have being a matter of time before they come to rally under the Starks' cause. I think that now the way to the North is ensured and Winterfell is his now, he has nothing to worry anymore, but I would hold my breath if I was him...

At Meereen

So Jorah, how does it feel to be exiled twice?
So Jorah, how does it feel to be exiled twice?

I am just going to this out of the way before we move on to the big incident that happens with Daenerys and Jorah. There is an obvious build up for a romance between Missandei and Grey Worm and there are two problems I have with them: A. he is a freaking eunuch, which may be pretty difficult to work a romantic relationship around and B. they are such minor, peripheral characters I can't really feel any investiment in their relationship when alpha couples end up so messed up (like we seen with Shae/Tyrion).

Then this part of the episode goes to sh*t when a message is delivered to Barristan the Bold, displaying the Hand of the King from Westeros, which turns out to be the pardon that Jorah received for his work as an spy for Varys (which may have being that letter forged by Tywin in "The First of His Name"). He is called upon Daenerys' throne room to confront her and when he is forced to admit the truth, she comes just short of breathing fire on him (euphemism). Despite he pleading that he loved her , she has absolutely none of it and orders Jorah to leave Meereen at once before breaking dawn or she will have him executed.

Goddamn, Dany... This man may had started out working for your enemy, but he switched teams out of love. He offered advice and counsel, killed for you, tries to reason with you and you decide to tell him to f*ck off? That was a very sh*tty thing to do, but ultimately not without an understandable reason on Dany's part. Though I could argue it would have being not a smart decision to exile him, since he is one of her most loyal and trusted advisors, it has being made repeatedly clear she dimissess advices given by from them and does what as she wills. Ultimately from a personal standpoint, really sh**ty thing to do, Dany. You know that you going to need every loyal subject you can get, but she keeps making one terrible decision after the other...

In the Eyrie

Littlefinger is brought before the Vale lords to be questioned about Lysa's death, with them being right to suspect something is fishy about him. Sansa is called to give her testimony, though to the rest of the council, she is believed to be Baelish's niece Alayne. She quickly reveals the truth about her identity as an Stark and how Littlefinger managed to get her the hell out of King's Landing after Joffrey's death and the last minute saying that Lysa killed herself after Petyr kissed Sansa in the cheek (when that was soooooooooo not the case at all)

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I really liked that scene because for a second there, I believed she was about to split the beans and tell absolutely f*cking everything Petyr worked for and she held him right there by the balls. Sansa is an character that ever since the Season 1 finale, she has being in absolute deep sh*t and whenever things looked like they might turn for the better, fate pulls the yank chain and make her life suck still. The Vale Lords claim that they were honorable and they knew her father well, but they are complete strangers and as far as she knows, they would sell her out to Cersei if the opportunity presented itself. Having only Littlefinger to rely on, for once, she is taking a proactive stance and decides to play by Petyr's game and screw around with him (not in that sense, thankfully enough) and even going as changing her outfit to something more... flattering, to represent her turn around as a character.

I knew Sophie Turner was a babe, but daaaaaaaaaaaamnnnn...
I knew Sophie Turner was a babe, but daaaaaaaaaaaamnnnn...

And we close the Eyrie with Arya and the Hound reaching the Bloody Gate, ready to ransom the poor girl to her aunt... Unfortunately Lysa had died three days ago, which made their entire journey from the start of the season pointless. Arya realized the dramatic irony of this being the second time the person the Hound wants to ransom her to died right before their arrival and/or the fact that her situation (as far as she knows) has gotten a lot worse again (with the wound likely being infected and her protector therefore being in serious danger). I felt more awkward than anything, since this was not the reaction I expected, but since this child had her innocence destroyed inch by inch with every season, I should have known better now.

At King's Landing

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After having a very awkward and strange conversation about an long-dead relative obsessed with killing beetles, Tyrion is called upon to witness his trial by combat between Prince Oberyn Martell and Ser Gregor Clegane. This long waited scene delivers in every aspect, such as being faithful to the source material, well-shot and showcasing awesome displays of action.

Firstly lets look at how Gregor did. Despite being toyed around with and ultimately skewered and stabbed multiple times by Oberyn's spear, Gregor was a f*cking tank throughout the fight, hurling blow after blow at his opponent and tossing him around like a rag doll whenever he got his hands on him. While Oberyn was certainly faster and more skilled, Gregor's strength was nearly enough to give him the edge. And of course there's what happened when Oberyn let his guard down after winning the fight....

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Secondly Oberyn. Put simply, Oberyn not just won, but DOMINATED the fight against the most feared knight in Westeros, while giving him a speech that could make Inigo Montoya blush. After starting the fight with an almost polite introduction to his opponent, he calmly reminds Gregor of how he raped his sister, murdered her, then killed her children, and as the fight goes on, and as he effortlessly avoids Gregor's blows, using his spear to tear away at Gregor's armour, he keeps repeating "You raped her, you murdered her, you killed her children", at first arrogant but growing increasingly enraged as the fight goes on and he wears Gregor down. Then, after unbalancing Gregor, he rounds on him one last time and furiously roars "YOU RAPED HER! YOU MURDERED HER!" as Gregor lunges at him, only for Oberyn to dodge, rip his spear down the back of Gregor's calf sending him to his knees, and then charge the prone giant with his spear as he screams "YOU KILLED HER CHILDREN!", impaling him through the stomach to the arena floor.

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Oberyn then circles Gregor's panting, defeated body, demanding he confess his crime and demanding he reveal it was Tywin who ordered this, standing right above his body as he demands that he say it.... only for Gregor to effortlessly bat the legs from under him with a swipe of his forearm, easily drag Oberyn on top of him so he can smash his face in with a single punch. Then as Oberyn lies beside him coughing up blood and teeth, Gregor just leaps up on top of him, shove his thumbs into Oberyn's eye sockets, and as he slowly crushes the man's skull as he shrieks in agony, Gregor triumphantly growls

Gregor: Elia Martell. I killed her children. THEN I RAPED HER. THEN I SMASHED HER HEAD IN LIKE THIS!!!

Gregor then slams Oberyn's head against the ground so hard it literally explodes in a shower of blood, bone, and brain, before finally succumbing to his wounds and passing out next to him.

No way I am posting that scene over here, so instead have Ellaria's reaction to her beloved getting splattered
No way I am posting that scene over here, so instead have Ellaria's reaction to her beloved getting splattered

I can say with no exageration, this was the most nightmarish and gruesome death I've seen in this series so far - even with such dubious standards Joffrey's poisoning and Talisa's stabbing don't come nowhere near close. Safe to say, I already knew Oberyn was going to die since I had previous knowledge from the source material, but for all my preparation I was still horrified to my f*cking core due to how graphic it was, how exceedingly agonizing it looked having his eyes being gouged before his skull exploding like an watermelon. What made his death even more heartbreaking was due to Oberyn being such likable and sympathetic character that I pretty much enjoyed each of his scenes from the start of the season until now.

The only pleasure I can possibly get with Oberyn's death is that now any chance of the Lannisters forming an alliance with Dorne is ruined. Do you really think Tywin, that the Dornish will allow this without wanting to retaliate when their prince's brains are splattered over the ground? I hope you enjoy your brother's execution, Cersei, cause you ain't going to see your daughter Myrcella anytime soon, since she is pretty much a hostage (you know the same way Sansa was yours for many years). Oh and Clegane confessed he raped Elia Martell and killed her children in front of an audience to hear, including at least a few Dornish. DO YOU ALL HONESTLY THINK YOU CAN KEEP THAT SH*T UNDER THE WRAPS NOW?!?!?! Gods...

When you think about the bigger picture, Tyrion's fate might be sealed, but his enemies' victory will be none the bitter
When you think about the bigger picture, Tyrion's fate might be sealed, but his enemies' victory will be none the bitter

Closing Thoughts

To say this episode was good or bad is kinda of an moot point, This is an WTF-level episode the same way as the Rains of Castamere. I will say that, I would sooner watch the Red Wedding over and over again. than Oberyn's death once more. I know that lasted like 20 seconds, but those 20 seconds were more personally agonizing than seeing all the heroic faction of the war getting betrayed and butchered. I might be overreacting right now, I will give this, the duel between the Oberyn and Gregor was sure awesome and delivered in all I expected, I just can't stomach watching the fight's end once again.

Phew... Next episode will be "The Watchers on the Wall" and be prepared, that will be the climatic episode of the season!

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@jaken7 said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

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Never been a crusader. He's written a lot of sh*t within an excellent overall story. I'm not defending him at all actually, only pointing out the flaws in your critique of my favorite show. Sorry if that bothers you.

Ok? Your predictions have little say in this discussion, and I'm not even fully understanding this sentence.

Anyways...

...sorry you had such a falling out with GoT. I'm sure it only being several hours after that impactful ending totally isn't a factor here. You'll remain bitter about it from here on out, right? Too bad, I enjoyed your reviews. Sounds like you might not be watching in the future, and that saddens me.

Wait, what >_> I didn't say I had a fallout with the show or that I outright gave up on it just yet, I will still going to watch it and write these reviews, but I need to point out the things that bother me and be harsh when necessary. I may be upset about Oberyn's death, but if I didn't give up when Robb died back then I've only stuck around when I learned that Joffrey would die anyway.

Just brought up how I feel about Bran's quest when you did.

That last paragraph was absurdest sarcasm to show you how ridiculous I thought you were being. xD

:/

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@jaken7 said:

@pyrogram said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Fuck this tv show, just like the books it's full of filler characters introduced just to die and pointless storylines that don't go anywhere. I'm done.

Just enjoy the show dude, what's the point of getting so worked up? It was a badass death.

Just let 'em be super butthurt. The episode was only several hours ago, I'm imagining this is just raw reactionary emotion. I haven't been able to get through to them, so I think it's time I let 'em be for a bit and just hope they cool off.

Just so you know, the more you dismiss peoples opinions the less I care about yours.

Just so you know, people can have different opinions than you without being fanboys.

Also, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I'm giving my hypothesis as to why you've come to that opinion, and what will ultimately be the end result from it.

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@jaken7 said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@jaken7 said:

Never been a crusader. He's written a lot of sh*t within an excellent overall story. I'm not defending him at all actually, only pointing out the flaws in your critique of my favorite show. Sorry if that bothers you.

Ok? Your predictions have little say in this discussion, and I'm not even fully understanding this sentence.

Anyways...

...sorry you had such a falling out with GoT. I'm sure it only being several hours after that impactful ending totally isn't a factor here. You'll remain bitter about it from here on out, right? Too bad, I enjoyed your reviews. Sounds like you might not be watching in the future, and that saddens me.

Wait, what >_> I didn't say I had a fallout with the show or that I outright gave up on it just yet, I will still going to watch it and write these reviews, but I need to point out the things that bother me and be harsh when necessary. I may be upset about Oberyn's death, but if I didn't give up when Robb died back then I've only stuck around when I learned that Joffrey would die anyway.

Just brought up how I feel about Bran's quest when you did.

That last paragraph was absurdest sarcasm to show you how ridiculous I thought you were being. xD

:/

Would you prefer that I was serious? ;P

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@jaken7 said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@jaken7 said:

@pyrogram said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Fuck this tv show, just like the books it's full of filler characters introduced just to die and pointless storylines that don't go anywhere. I'm done.

Just enjoy the show dude, what's the point of getting so worked up? It was a badass death.

Just let 'em be super butthurt. The episode was only several hours ago, I'm imagining this is just raw reactionary emotion. I haven't been able to get through to them, so I think it's time I let 'em be for a bit and just hope they cool off.

Just so you know, the more you dismiss peoples opinions the less I care about yours.

Just so you know, people can have different opinions than you without being fanboys.

Also, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I'm giving my hypothesis as to why you've come to that opinion, and what will ultimately be the end result from it.

You completely dismissed it without acknowledging any of R.R Martins faults

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@jaken7: @jonny_anonymous: No offence you two, but don't you have something better to do than mindlessly argue about random ass stuff? lol

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@pyrogram: Well I'm multitasking, I'm arguing as well as watching Cosmos.

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@jaken7 said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@jaken7 said:

@pyrogram said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

Fuck this tv show, just like the books it's full of filler characters introduced just to die and pointless storylines that don't go anywhere. I'm done.

Just enjoy the show dude, what's the point of getting so worked up? It was a badass death.

Just let 'em be super butthurt. The episode was only several hours ago, I'm imagining this is just raw reactionary emotion. I haven't been able to get through to them, so I think it's time I let 'em be for a bit and just hope they cool off.

Just so you know, the more you dismiss peoples opinions the less I care about yours.

Just so you know, people can have different opinions than you without being fanboys.

Also, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I'm giving my hypothesis as to why you've come to that opinion, and what will ultimately be the end result from it.

You completely dismissed it without acknowledging any of R.R Martins faults

Not sure what one has to do with the other, but I haven't acknowledged any of them because you haven't pointed any valid ones out. You must not be trying because I know he has loads of them.

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@jaken7: @jonny_anonymous: No offence you two, but don't you have something better to do than mindlessly argue about random ass stuff? lol

It's not mindless, and it's not random! (>°▪°)>

Also, this is the internet!

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@jaken7 said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@jaken7 said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@jaken7 said:

Never been a crusader. He's written a lot of sh*t within an excellent overall story. I'm not defending him at all actually, only pointing out the flaws in your critique of my favorite show. Sorry if that bothers you.

Ok? Your predictions have little say in this discussion, and I'm not even fully understanding this sentence.

Anyways...

...sorry you had such a falling out with GoT. I'm sure it only being several hours after that impactful ending totally isn't a factor here. You'll remain bitter about it from here on out, right? Too bad, I enjoyed your reviews. Sounds like you might not be watching in the future, and that saddens me.

Wait, what >_> I didn't say I had a fallout with the show or that I outright gave up on it just yet, I will still going to watch it and write these reviews, but I need to point out the things that bother me and be harsh when necessary. I may be upset about Oberyn's death, but if I didn't give up when Robb died back then I've only stuck around when I learned that Joffrey would die anyway.

Just brought up how I feel about Bran's quest when you did.

That last paragraph was absurdest sarcasm to show you how ridiculous I thought you were being. xD

:/

Would you prefer that I was serious? ;P

Considering how adamant you were at "winning" the argument with Jonny_Anonymous, I guessed you were serious all the time *shrugs*

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@dragonborn_ct: You should RPG sometime, and make an Oberyn inspired character with me :P

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@jaken7: I can't, you died like a little b!#%#. :P

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@dragonborn_ct: It wasn't that I was so concerned with "winning," I was just getting really annoyed by his constant deflections.

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@jaken7: Yeah, no way for a honorable warrior to go out.

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@ostyo: Dumb witch and her dumb black magic! >:/

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Damn what the hell happened here? Some real tense flame wars in this review which is unusual to say the least. Why did events fly off the fan here over what happened? I wouldn't have expected this in a GOT review or comment section at all. I personally really liked today's episode. I thought it was well paced, excellently acted and delivered the usual kind of twists and turns one can never guess on GOT. But I guess controversy can crop up everywhere on the Internet since it wouldn't be the same without some flame wars going on.

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@lvenger said:

Damn what the hell happened here? Some real tense flame wars in this review which is unusual to say the least. Why did events fly off the fan here over what happened? I wouldn't have expected this in a GOT review or comment section at all. I personally really liked today's episode. I thought it was well paced, excellently acted and delivered the usual kind of twists and turns one can never guess on GOT. But I guess controversy can crop up everywhere on the Internet since it wouldn't be the same without some flame wars going on.

Its not really unwarranted controversy seeing how one of the most fan-favorite characters was killed off. Not really used to that in my reviews, but I hope its over now :\

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Hey now, let's not all argue here. If anything take it to PM. Caio spends a lot of time writing up these reviews and I'd imagine he probably loses a lot of rest for getting these out every Monday. It isn't easy writing up reviews like how he does. Let's appreciate what he does.

That said, @dragonborn_ct - I knew it was gonna happen but did not expect it to be that brutal. Did watch it again this morning and probably won't again anytime soon. Kudos to Ellaria's actress for sounding so realistic. My heart goes out to the character.

Certainly seems Sansa is becoming LF's pet! I could be wrong but, I think in the books he wants her to wed Robin? Do you think this will happen on the show? It seems like she might actually stay with LF? Did love her dress at the end but, it seems it might of been to please him?

Didn't expect Arya to laugh! xD And the beetle speech was so random! I get it could of been perhaps how Gregor kills humans so easily but, thought there could of been a better example. xD

Great review like always mate! Looking forward to next week's. =)

Sorry to get back to this late, Sam. I am so glad to see my work recognized by some who value it so much. Its stuff like this that makes is rewarding to keep writing them.

Oh no that that is a mistake. He doesn't want to marry her to Robin, he is in fact planning to kill him by leeching him off his blood and so he can take completely control of the Vale. What he really wants is having Sansa completey for himself O_o

Oh yeah I forgot to give props to Indira Virma (Ellaria's actress) she really sold me on how genuinely horrified she was over that.

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@dragonborn_ct: Oh yeah I almost forgot how much you liked Oberyn. And his death was...unpleasant to say the least. That was definitely a messed up way to kill a character. And he was doing so well against Gregor too. Had him on the ropes until he let his pride, anger and vengeance consume him through.

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Uh....Martin does introduce characters just to kill them off...anyone who reads the books knows this. For one, every prologue character dies in the same chapter that he/she is introduced, but they're throwaway characters anyways. But then you also have more important characters introduced, sometimes as POV characters, who die without ever really doing anything just because. It's not like it's a super evident trope of his, but sometimes, after re-reading you'll notice that said character was just introduced to die. Don't worry, next season, if the shows skip around how I expect, we'll get another couple of cool characters who die for plot reasons IMO (Arys and Quentyn; Jon C is introduced literally just to spread a disease). Now, i'm not saying that i'm going to quit the show or anything but @jonny_anonymous has some merit to what he was saying.....He was wrong about the Starks and some of the more major characters though....

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Oh, and super spoiler,

If Jon Snow is really freaking dead, after all that build-up, I might just quit this series. Seriously, there comes a point when you just can't take it anymore.

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@lvenger said:

Damn what the hell happened here? Some real tense flame wars in this review which is unusual to say the least. Why did events fly off the fan here over what happened? I wouldn't have expected this in a GOT review or comment section at all. I personally really liked today's episode. I thought it was well paced, excellently acted and delivered the usual kind of twists and turns one can never guess on GOT. But I guess controversy can crop up everywhere on the Internet since it wouldn't be the same without some flame wars going on.

Its not really unwarranted controversy seeing how one of the most fan-favorite characters was killed off. Not really used to that in my reviews, but I hope its over now :\

You should have seen the Giant Bomb GOT thread after the Red Wedding, it was a war zone that lasted for 20 odd pages and I think it was eventually locked.

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@jonny_anonymous said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@lvenger said:

Damn what the hell happened here? Some real tense flame wars in this review which is unusual to say the least. Why did events fly off the fan here over what happened? I wouldn't have expected this in a GOT review or comment section at all. I personally really liked today's episode. I thought it was well paced, excellently acted and delivered the usual kind of twists and turns one can never guess on GOT. But I guess controversy can crop up everywhere on the Internet since it wouldn't be the same without some flame wars going on.

Its not really unwarranted controversy seeing how one of the most fan-favorite characters was killed off. Not really used to that in my reviews, but I hope its over now :\

You should have seen the Giant Bomb GOT thread after the Red Wedding, it was a war zone that lasted for 20 odd pages and I think it was eventually locked.

Why was that a warzone? I know most of the Starks died but still 20 pages seems a bit much in hindsight.

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@lvenger said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@lvenger said:

Damn what the hell happened here? Some real tense flame wars in this review which is unusual to say the least. Why did events fly off the fan here over what happened? I wouldn't have expected this in a GOT review or comment section at all. I personally really liked today's episode. I thought it was well paced, excellently acted and delivered the usual kind of twists and turns one can never guess on GOT. But I guess controversy can crop up everywhere on the Internet since it wouldn't be the same without some flame wars going on.

Its not really unwarranted controversy seeing how one of the most fan-favorite characters was killed off. Not really used to that in my reviews, but I hope its over now :\

You should have seen the Giant Bomb GOT thread after the Red Wedding, it was a war zone that lasted for 20 odd pages and I think it was eventually locked.

Why was that a warzone? I know most of the Starks died but still 20 pages seems a bit much in hindsight.

People arguing about whether it was deep and meaningful writing or an over the top gorefest done for shock value.

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Oh, and super spoiler,

If Jon Snow is really freaking dead, after all that build-up, I might just quit this series. Seriously, there comes a point when you just can't take it anymore.

To address this

Martin didn't give an straight answer when asked if he died or not, he said "Do you think he is dead?" or something along those lines. I am clinging to hope he is not, if he is however... Well I wish the same thing that happened to him in South Park to happen in real life.

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@jonny_anonymous: Do you have an link, bro? Or did they erase everything in that thread?

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just watched it.....now i need to go poo and then go cry

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@lvenger: Haha you already know

@jonny_anonymous: Do you have an link, bro? Or did they erase everything in that thread?

I've no idea where it is, there is so many GOT related thread on Giant Bomb now.

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@jonny_anonymous: I think I found it. Was it this one? Your name is in it :P

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic-31/game-of-thrones-season-3-the-thread-577365/?page=14

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Well, that happen 0____0 and nice review Caio .

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@buttersdaman000 said:

Oh, and super spoiler,

If Jon Snow is really freaking dead, after all that build-up, I might just quit this series. Seriously, there comes a point when you just can't take it anymore.

To address this

Martin didn't give an straight answer when asked if he died or not, he said "Do you think he is dead?" or something along those lines. I am clinging to hope he is not, if he is however... Well I wish the same thing that happened to him in South Park to happen in real life.

I honestly wouldn't put it past him though. He's said multiple times that ASoIaF isn't your normal, cliche fantasy series and that the ending would be very bittersweet.

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Well, that happen 0____0 and nice review Caio .

I know right ಠ________ಠ and thanks, mate.

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@jonny_anonymous: I think I found it. Was it this one? Your name is in it :P

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic-31/game-of-thrones-season-3-the-thread-577365/?page=14

Well that's one of them but there was definitely one that was locked

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@dragonborn_ct: I read A Storm of Swords which this takes place it was pretty brutal but seeing it jumped it up a notch.No problem man.

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@buttersdaman000 said:

@dragonborn_ct said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Oh, and super spoiler,

If Jon Snow is really freaking dead, after all that build-up, I might just quit this series. Seriously, there comes a point when you just can't take it anymore.

To address this

Martin didn't give an straight answer when asked if he died or not, he said "Do you think he is dead?" or something along those lines. I am clinging to hope he is not, if he is however... Well I wish the same thing that happened to him in South Park to happen in real life.

I honestly wouldn't put it past him though. He's said multiple times that ASoIaF isn't your normal, cliche fantasy series and that the ending would be very bittersweet.

Fair enough... If he has to kill Jon in the end of the series. I am fine with that. I am only hoping he did not die at the end of Book 5.

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gg Oberyn.

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No worries mate and it's an honor having to read these!

Oh wow....Now isn't that something? 0.o Am kinda disturbed how LF is fooling Sansa! D=

Sigh, I don't even wanna think about the final scene. v_____v Shame with how likable Oberyn was.

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It wasn't that bad honestly. I think the amount of brutality they showed fit just fine, especially by what I read in the books.

I watched that fight a few times already, and can't get enough.

I suggest you guys who have a weak stomach never watch a movie known as "Braindead" by Peter Jackson. You would probably cry.

Hehe.

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It wasn't that bad honestly. I think the amount of brutality they showed fit just fine, especially by what I read in the books.

I watched that fight a few times already, and can't get enough.

I suggest you guys who have a weak stomach never watch a movie known as "Braindead" by Peter Jackson. You would probably cry.

Hehe.

That film is more of a comedy than anything else

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The arguing done by two people on this thread reaffirms that one of things that is wrong with the people in the fictional Westeros is the same thing wrong with most people on the internet. No cares about anyone's opinion but their own.

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Dude was on like 5 episodes.

The Red Wedding was totally more emotional/brutal to me. Mother watching her son die before getting her own throat slashed, man watching his lover (with his child inside) killed before meetin his death, wolf sitting helplessly in a cage killed, and youngest daughter seeing a wolf head sewed to her brothers beheaded body.

All while this happened, their father was basically murdered and they were seeking out revenge against the ones responsible, only to be killed by the order of the same people. That was just crappy.

That was just overkill. Red Wedding >>> Mountain vs. Viper.

EDIT: Besides, I so would rather suffer the fate of the Viper rather than what the Mountain is about to go through.

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@biteme_fanboy said:

It wasn't that bad honestly. I think the amount of brutality they showed fit just fine, especially by what I read in the books.

I watched that fight a few times already, and can't get enough.

I suggest you guys who have a weak stomach never watch a movie known as "Braindead" by Peter Jackson. You would probably cry.

Hehe.

That film is more of a comedy than anything else

I'm speaking more about the gore.. also just kinda being an ass.. All in fun though. No offense intended.

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Dude was on like 5 episodes.

The Red Wedding was totally more emotional/brutal to me. Mother watching her son die before getting her own throat slashed, man watching his lover (with his child inside) killed before meetin his death, wolf sitting helplessly in a cage killed, and youngest daughter seeing a wolf head sewed to her brothers beheaded body.

That was just overkill. Red Wedding >>> Mountain vs. Viper.

I am sorry, man, but remember what did you say last year when the Red Wedding happened? http://www.comicvine.com/forums/off-topic-5/the-game-of-thrones-thread-1450651/?page=6

#299 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7281 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Wasn't that bad. lol.

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@dragonborn_ct said:

@biteme_fanboy said:

Dude was on like 5 episodes.

The Red Wedding was totally more emotional/brutal to me. Mother watching her son die before getting her own throat slashed, man watching his lover (with his child inside) killed before meetin his death, wolf sitting helplessly in a cage killed, and youngest daughter seeing a wolf head sewed to her brothers beheaded body.

That was just overkill. Red Wedding >>> Mountain vs. Viper.

I am sorry, man, but remember what did you say last year when the Red Wedding happened? http://www.comicvine.com/forums/off-topic-5/the-game-of-thrones-thread-1450651/?page=6

#299 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7281 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Wasn't that bad. lol.

Yeah. It wasn't like it made me lose any sleep or anything. Still was emotional though, especially since the Starks were pretty much my favorite characters of the show.

EDIT: Just because I say it was overkill doesn't mean I think they creators of the show went too far and it should have been tone down. I thought the Red Wedding was played out perfectly and honestly couldn't think of any way to change it. I'm more of saying I think it was more emotional/brutal than what we saw last night.

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I'm thinking Sansa will end up killing Littlefinger now. Seems like an appropiate way to conclude his storyline. Oberyn was a boss but his death was extremely lame. Arya was great.

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Fuck this tv show, just like the books it's full of filler characters introduced just to die and pointless storylines that don't go anywhere. I'm done.

Kind of like real life.