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The strength of OW is the ability for their characters to Wombo Combo.

For those that dont know what a Wombo Combo is, here is a link.

Can TF players counter the Wombo Combos or do they have their own that can compare to team wipers like Hanzo+Zarya?

I cant say who would win here, but I think pairing of abilities is a strength of Overwatch.

I've seen this argument several times, and I havnt read Wolverine in a while, so perhaps someone can enlighten me. Where did this argument originate from? I remember old Wolverine comics sayin that his claws were honed so keen that they could cut through anything. I always assumed that everything was "cutable" to logan other than other adamantium, vibranium and possibly force fields.

I mean, from a scientific standpoint, if you want to go there, his strength could be a moot point if his claws were sharp enough? I thought that this idea was always the point to begin with.

@Katzman Less Hulk reviews, more Death of Wolverine 4 review. I cant decide if I loved it or hated it. Im just kinda staring staring off in space after it.

Dont know about the timing of Death of Wolverine series due to the appearence of Nuke...still it's nice to have writer show how dangerous Wolverine can be without having to rely on the healing factor, and in this case, the claws. Those headbutts were brutal.

@armaghetto They explain in the begining that his strength and speed are still important, so he can still function with the weight of the skeleton, but they also point out that he is going to start having some serious health concerns due to the bones (they didnt mention the adamantium poisioning but they did mention radiation from Nagasaki that I thought was cool)

Sounds good. I want to read up on them before I post the fight though. Thanks for the idea. Tried someone else that I was familiar with for the time being, did a Kraven match. Curious to see an argument there for the scenarios I posted. Thanks again.

Kraven the Hunter vs Beast

Location: Old X-Mansion, it is abandoned with the exception of Hank.

Scenario 1: Kraven has 1 week prep time and has a working knowledge of Beast and his abilities. Beast does not know he is being hunted.

Scenario 2: Kraven has 1 week prep time and Beast is aware, and given 1 day to prepare himself for the hunt.

Scenario 3: Both are dropped into the Danger Room, random encounter.

Morals on

Win by KO/Death/Incapacitate

I havnt read Savage in a while. I was hoping that Ape Beast would be more on-par with him. I always figured they would be similar agility wise (I was actually giving Hank a slight nod in that department).

It's hard to find a good fight for Hank =(

Savage Dragon vs Beast (Hank McCoy/Current Ape version)

Fight takes place in a populated Times Square.

Scenario 1: Morals On

Scenario 2: Morals Off

Win via KO/Death/incapacitate

Sorry for the Necro, but this seems like such a entertaining fight, sorry I missed it first time around.

@k4tzm4n Rogue did defeat him but she was not alone, she was assisted by Morph and Blink if memory serves correctly. Aslo during the same fight it appeared as though Holo KO'd Rogue and she only got back into the fight after an assist from Morph who literally had to wake her up.

Also another great feat, outside taking shots from an early Nate Gray (X-Man), Is Holocausts first appearance in 616. Found floating around in space, defeating a handfull of Magneto's Acolytes after they found him, destroying Asteroid M in a battle with Exodus (and is shown to have beat him on the last panel) while falling to earth from outer space. All this with no Armor. This is probably his largest feat that remains unmentioned.

How good are Mr. Sinister's TP feats? I'm aware that he has been noted and mentioned as having amazing TP abilities...but I cant actually recall any great feats that would compare to J'onn. Granted, I have limited knowledge on him...but nothing I have seen has put him on that lvl.