Having someone with a strong liberal feminist agenda on a friggin Wonder Woman comic is, in fact, not a bad thing because she's Wonder Woman. She's been a strong feminist icon since she's existed (even if the source material rarely does that any justice).
On top of that, Wonder Woman has been one of the best selling titles of Rebirth. What exactly more do you want from her run?
Frank was forced to quit by Rucka and his intolerant behavior.
That's not true. Frank Cho had the option to redraw the cover more to DC and Rucka's liking, but instead cried "censorship" and quit. If your an artist being paid to do a job and you refuse to change your creative decisions to suit your client's needs, you gave up. Unless people were threatening to blackball Cho behind the scenes (which I highly doubt), no one forced him out.
When the WonderCon panel ended where the creative teams of the Rebirth books were announced Wonder Woman was one of my most anticipated titles. Now, the issues we've seen so far are not bad, but they are certainly far from what was expected. I agree that it's early to judge and I'll probably end up following the storylines I've already started but unless they somehow turn up to be amazing I doubt I'll keep supporting him.
He has a strong liberal agenda as well as an aggressive, unhealthy feminist agenda (not the good feminism that supports equality but the one known in the internet as feminazi) and his extreme statements often make him seem like a misandrist. He often tries to (subtly) push that agenda through his work.
He goes straight to ban people from twitter go with good will and try to conduct some meaningful dialogue with him.
You left the part out where he got a person kicked off a project because he probably didn't like the person. Because Frank Cho's variant covers were beautiful and respectful to Diana and showed no more skin than the interior art. Hypocrisy much? Plus he is simply power hungry and wants full editorial control over everything, when variant covers have nothing to do with his writing or his story, and are purely a marketing tool and should be way out of his jurisdiction.
Having someone with a strong liberal feminist agenda on a friggin Wonder Woman comic is, in fact, not a bad thing because she's Wonder Woman. She's been a strong feminist icon since she's existed (even if the source material rarely does that any justice).
This, pretty much. It's like when people dislike Captain America for getting too political (facepalm). Wonder Woman is a feminist. There are different types of feminism and art often immitates life. If you can't read Wonder Woman because she's taking a stance you don't like or talking about a feminist issue that you are uncomfortable disscussing, read a different comic book.
Also, whether you know it or not, every writer has an agenda, because if they didn't have anything to say to the readers, they wouldn't be writing a story. You don't have to agree with writers on a personal level to enjoy their product. For example, I find Frank Miller to be a despicable person but I can still enjoy the Dark Knight Returns, just as I find Alan Moore to be a complete hypocrite who constantly rips apart the industry that gave him his fame, but the Killing Joke is still excellent and For the Man Who Has Everything is one of my top 3 favorite stories in comics.
It really doesn't need to be it's own universe anymore. I get that it started out that way so that the writers could have some degree of protection over their charactes but nowadays it shouldn't still be an issue.
Regarding your examples with the former imprints, the Dakotaverse is actually the easiest one to merge with DC. Vertigo is just too edgy to market to kids without watering down, and Wildstorm has way too many different mechanics to ever fit properly into dc. Unlike the other two, the Dakotverse is not too gritty (to a point wear a PG-13 vibe would ruin the characters), is on a small enough to fit into one city, and not overly convulted with canon that can't mesh with DC.
Lastly, unlike what Marvels doing, none of the Wildstorm characters are new, meaning that the usual people who cry "PC Agenda" and "SJWs" wouldn't have the backing of most comic readers because no change isn't being forced in.
Get Rucka off of Wonder Woman with him shoving his political agenda down our throats
No. He's arguably the most respected WW writers still alive today. That probably buys him more than 2 months of good will. Also, what political agenda is he forcing down our throats?
Trump is all style and no substance, and Hillary is just the left's equivalent of Mitt Romney (that person no one is rooting for but ultimately settles for). I've never seen both sides so dissatisfied with the system and I'm not sure if there's any way for America to reunite.
The second to last paragraph is problematic in two ways. First, Government and Laws do grant rights. As Publius (Madison) once said in Federalist No. 51: "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." You could argue that the rights always existed, but if you pick up any history book worth its weight in salt you'll know that humanity didn't always know that. Last, it's impossible to be ostracized from society without losing essential human rights. Otherwise, it was a refreshing read.
I've always found Modern interpretations of Utilitarianism to be a better philosophical alternative to Libertarianism, just my nature I suppose. ;)
Rather than whining & b*tching with barely any information like everyone else, I'm gonna wait and see where they go with this before I make up my mind/opinion on it.
I will say though, I have been losing interest in the Iron Man book for a while, and this is something that actually makes me curious & interested again. I also like her character design.
Wow this comment section is really showing they're..."Tolerance"
I mean really people, shitting on a character that not only has been introduced but is already shown her ability and competency. A young black girl in the marvel universe where some of the most powerful people in said universe are also among the smartest, how could she not be inspired to go into the STEM fields.
Stop all this "as a black-" stuff cause all that really does is make me wonder about who exactly is writing this. Instead of knee-jerk reacting how about we let the book come out and the character be realized before we get to 'outraging'
One question tho why does she have to be 15 why not a grown woman?
I think they're setting up a new angle with young heroes divide themselves from the older heroes (Divided We Stand). There's a Marvel NOW! pic of Miles, Sam, and Kamala burning their Avenger ids.
Also, i'd prefer they take the time to create new characters that aren't white instead of taking the lazy route. To me it just shows that Marvel isn't really confident in female/black/asian/trans/middle-eastern/etc characters so they just have them piggy back off more popular characters. I mean these dudes are supposed to be creative minds but all they do is rehash the same crap over and over and over again.
Almost every time they do that the book tanks. As much as comic readers claim to support diversity when done the "right way" they don't do so with their wallets. It definitely couldn't work in Marvel anyway, because if they keep releasing +70 issues a month, no one's gonna waste the cash to pick up an independant hero without any brand recognition.
Another insufferable teen genius character written by Bendis. And with a PC agenda too.
So glad I stopped reading Marvel.
I get that the teen genius trope has been played out in comics for a while, but why is it automatically "PC agenda" for including new characters that don't share the same cultural background as 95% of other, more prominent superheroes?
@teerack: I take it you won't be buying the new issues of Hal & Friends? lol
I'm not too upset over it since Venditti intends to keep John Stewart in a leadership role and actually do things with John and Guy. I'll give him six issues to live up to that promise, if not I'm bailing.
@stormdriven: @lukehero And I personally love Thea. So I wouldn't want to see her leave
Yeah, Thea works best in small doses. When you overuse her we end up making Malcolm a parody of himself who can only recite the "I'm doing this for your own good" line, over and over. After the bloodlust cured by a magic potion, the recycled daddy issues, a romance with Alex that went nowhere, and whatever that Anarky plot was supposed to be, the writers should not be taking anymore chances with Thea in season 5.
Why keep her now that we have Mr. Terrific? He has all of her likable (Season 1-2) qualities and he doesn't call Ollie a liar every two episodes. The team only needs one hacker. Plus, if we get rid of Felicity we can also loose her mom, who's character has also turned into a "never hide anything from me, ever" nutjob.
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