dernman

That's arguable. One you get the fracking while some shmuck lies about it, the other you get the fracking but some shmuck lies better about it.

I really thought it was like 2 or 3 in the morning over there, if it was me I would be asleep by now...lol

Being childish isn't helping your case here. How very Trump of you.

At a time of you posting this show me any stance I took other than Saudis have been a problem for longer than Trump. Where are you coming up with this shit? Fracks sake man. Get your head together.

Nobody is telling you to be fine with it or defending it. I'm just saying it didn't start with Trump and it's bigger than him.

Hell I'll add something new. You can get mad at that. It's big enough that I think if someone else was president that not much would be different. Sure they'd pretend like they're going to do something. Even make some declaration or enact something but it would be just a token gesture to placate the masses and make it look like they're doing something Just smoke and mirrors while nothing really hurts the Saudis

Isn't it late over in your neck of the woods? I thought you would be asleep by now.

Now you're just being childish.

I'm not getting into a debate about Trump with you. Especially when I've not even defending him here. Stop letting your hatred for Trump blind you to all the other problems and issues we've had before he got into the game.

Saudi's have had a huge influence on the US has for as long as I could remember. People have been warning the public about their influence on the US politics and international manipulation for a long time. Dirty dealing have been going on with them for a long time just mostly under the radar or buried. Now we have an issue, and you care because Trump and think it's something new. While the rest of us have been here a long time not liking their influence and hold.

I don't care. They don't even make it look like all nerds look like that. Just the ones on the show. I'd rather have that portrayal then the one media is trying to make us out to be. Nazi, racist, misogynistic, homophobes just because we don't like their BS narrative.

Don't fool yourself. The US has been in the Saudi's pocket since probably before you were born. It's been a known issue long before Trump got into office. Don't rewrite history just to take another dig at Trump.

The US has been Saudi's bitch for long before Trump.

I have many issue but incest or two fictional siblings hooking up isn't one of them..

I'm not the one who said they should be together. That was someone else.

@supergoku17: It's the Boston crap for you.

@mister_surreal: I'm sure he can. Royalty has a long history with inbreeding.