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Nice blog. I recommend visiting TV Tropes if you want to make know about comic book tropes.
Just a silly question: what example of insulting disaster is about a deceitful seductress?
I've been using TV Tropes for quite some time now. Thing about all tropes though is that no one character fits just one. In my opinion that is what makes some characters really compelling is that they encompass more than one. Deceitful Seductress though would include tropes like: The Vamp, Femme Fatale, or Black Widow.
As far as and example of the deceitful seductress being an insulting disaster. It's hard for me to name them all off the top of my head, but there are a few. It mostly can become an insulting disaster when the trope is completely out of character for a certain one. For example in Birds of Prey, Huntress sleeps with a security guard to get some information out of him. Now in my opinion this is completely out of character for Helena Bertinelli.
Well - the idea of a deceitful seductress has always drawn an audience, a ploy that has worked for a long time and showcased many times in pieces of literature all through other mediums. I have to say though - each person "seduced" need to take responsibility for their own behaviours - and yes, lesson learned if they were able to be taken in by a woman's physical charms. Can go both ways, can turn this into a gender thing and point out how when it's a man being seduced, there is more sympathy, whereas if its a woman, its more judged as her being a silly fool. Not always, but most often.
It can easily be turned into a gender thing, but feelings of sympathy or contempt are left up to the individual reading the literature. The literature itself can be written from a certain stance to garner sympathy for a particular character, but despite that it can often have the opposite effect. In the case of Samson. He was written in a way that made him seem sympathetic, but I personally have no sympathy for the man. He knew where his power came from, yet he indulged and took advantage of it. The loss of his power was more so the result of his own doing rather than Delilah's deeds. This though does not make Delilah innocent either though. She did not love Samson and only used him in order to grant her some extra coin. So in a sense both parties are guilty of different things. Samson pride and Delilah greed.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:@lykopis said:Do you seriously believe that CV is misogynistic? Every second thread is something about why men are evil.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:Maybe it's been balanced out by how amazingly Misandrist Comicvine has gotten?
Disagree. The only thing what would be amazing is the opposite - but like you, it's only my opinion.
There has been some pretty nasty threads that targeted women specifically, but all in all, I would not say CV is misogynistic. There are some ugly words bandied about in the battle forums but I chalk that up to ignorance and immaturity rather than outright misogyny. I don't see the misandry however - and if you are referring to threads discussing good and evil, its towards both genders, at least, that's how I read them to mean.
I've actually seen both sides of the forums, and honestly here lately I've seen more threads targeting women rather than men, but that could be the result of typical locations I frequent on the vine. If you erase the lines between genders though you have simply individuals and as individuals we all perceive ourselves as inherently important. Due to the labels of man and woman we come to take pride in our particular gender and due to that pride and our interactions with others sometimes we come across varying opinions that seem either misandrist or misogynistic. In my experience though, I personally think the stance of the majority of the vine itself is neutral on the matter. The funny thing about neutrality though, is that the neutral remain silent where as the sides are more outspoken, because the see themselves as offended.
Jedi are awesome, and they go on some amazing adventures, but a wizard constantly seeks knowledge and builds on a vast wealth that he already has and he is allowed to use it in whatever method he deems fit. A Jedi not so much. I've always felt the Jedi where a little more limited in terms of abilities.
@lykopis: I forgot about Lilith to be honest, but I pretty much know her story. I honestly don't see her as a seductress though. I don't believe there was an evil motive, just as there wasn't an evil motive behind Eve's indulgence. Granted Jewish priests would probably have my head for saying that. Delilah's intentions though were purely selfish and vain, because she did it for money. Some of the early women get a bad rap in my opinion.