Doctor Doom is a hax?

I'll admit I am blindly overreaching my boundaries here but I want to get this off my chest.

What?

Doctor is the damn Konami code.

There's literally no way his armor can tank hits from so many things in the entire MCU and not have a scratch.

He can NOT do this. This is beyond PIS.

This is ridiculous. He is Aizen on roids. These feats are absolute bullshit. I refuse to believe that TECHNOLOGY alone and a bit of genius are able to help him do the things people say he does.

This is the true power of writing. I hate this guy.

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Edited by Wolfrazer

In a word...yes. Yes he is.

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Posted by Guardiandevil83

Technically no person in comics should be able to do what they do. And Batman and Punisher are worse. Atleast Doom has the armor. What's their excuse.

Edited by Ironshinobi88

No one beats batman when it comes to ridiculous feats. I like him more a an agile detective, not some guy pulling meta-human level crap.

On-topic: Doom does do regularly insane stuff. Perhaps the most insane was Doomwar with Black Panther, him outsmarting B'ast was about as BS as it gets.

Posted by PotatoOfDoom

@deathandgrim said:

This is ridiculous. He is Aizen on roids. These feats are absolute bullshit. I refuse to believe that TECHNOLOGY alone and a bit of genius are able to help him do the things people say he does..

This.

I don't hate him that much, but...meh..who am I kidding? I never liked him. >_>

Edited by JetiiMitra

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

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Posted by Marionettegeist

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Exactly!

Posted by Gaza_Stripper

He is Doctor Mother F-ing Doom, and he does what he wants.

Posted by NICK31898

Edited by PeppeyHare

" This character can't do _!"

Well obviously they can because the writers said so.

Posted by DeathandGrim

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Edited by DeathandGrim

" This character can't do _!"

Well obviously they can because the writers said so.

Edited by Wolverine08

Doom reigns supreme.

Posted by JetiiMitra

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Surfer isn't omnipotent.

I wouldn't know how. I've never tried.

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@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Surfer isn't omnipotent.

I wouldn't know how. I've never tried.

I know Surfer isn't but Beyonder is... was.

Posted by Wolverine08

They worship Doom!

Edited by Jake Fury

Doom didn't steal all of the Beyonder's power, just enough to grant himself what he thought was omnipotence. Crikey, try reading something first.

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@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

@ironshinobi88 said:

No one beats batman when it comes to ridiculous feats. I like him more a an agile detective, not some guy pulling meta-human level crap.

On-topic: Doom does do regularly insane stuff. Perhaps the most insane was Doomwar with Black Panther, him outsmarting B'ast was about as BS as it gets.

Posted by JetiiMitra

@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Surfer isn't omnipotent.

I wouldn't know how. I've never tried.

I know Surfer isn't but Beyonder is... was.

Because that's just how Doom do.

I realize how ridiculous it is, but given that it's comics, that he's the intellectual equal and possible superior to Reed Richards, and a sorcerer second to Dr Strange, I just figure "hey, at least he's got reasons to be able to do this stuff."

Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

DOOM is not amused!

Posted by DeathandGrim
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@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Surfer isn't omnipotent.

I wouldn't know how. I've never tried.

I know Surfer isn't but Beyonder is... was.

Because that's just how Doom do.

I realize how ridiculous it is, but given that it's comics, that he's the intellectual equal and possible superior to Reed Richards, and a sorcerer second to Dr Strange, I just figure "hey, at least he's got reasons to be able to do this stuff."

Yerp... It's sci... erm... mag... um? scigic??? F-it... It's batman...

Posted by JetiiMitra

@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

@deathandgrim said:

@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world. And if he has a long, consistent history of doing these things (which it's obvious he does), then it's not PIS, it's just something you don't like.

Personally I'm fine with it. There are more ridiculous things out there in comics.

Taking the power of Beyonder and Surfer?

How do you steal that?

How do you steal omnipotence?

Surfer isn't omnipotent.

I wouldn't know how. I've never tried.

I know Surfer isn't but Beyonder is... was.

Because that's just how Doom do.

I realize how ridiculous it is, but given that it's comics, that he's the intellectual equal and possible superior to Reed Richards, and a sorcerer second to Dr Strange, I just figure "hey, at least he's got reasons to be able to do this stuff."

Yerp... It's sci... erm... mag... um? scigic??? F-it... It's batman...

No, fool!

It's DOOM!

Posted by The Stegman

It's not PIS, it's just being annoyingly overpowered.

Posted by Wolverine08

It's not PIS, it's just being annoyingly overpowered.

Batman called. He disagrees.

Posted by DeathandGrim

@the_stegman said:

It's not PIS, it's just being annoyingly overpowered.

Batman called. He disagrees.

Posted by TheFirstLantern

I will bring in the big guns.... @missj thoughts?

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@deathandgrim: put it this way

batman beats gods

victor usurps them

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@wolverine08: ugh, I wish people would stop with the "Batman is god" crap, he's not nearly as invincible as people claim he is. Vary rarely does he do the impossible, even with prep. Doom on the other hand is as smart as Reed Richards, has an engineering mind to rival Tony Stark AND is a powerful magic user. Doom is more OP than Batman could ever be.

Posted by Jack Donaghy

Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

Posted by Wolverine08

@the_stegman:

I was just playing you know? And overpowered is subjective at the end of the day mate. I may view Doom as being rightfully powered relative to what he's supposed to be and where he is supposed to stand in the Marvel Universe, and I may view Batman as being overpowered relatively when compared to what he is (street level). And I don't see how Doom being a rival to all those people makes him overpowered when most Viners would say Batman is a rival to all those people in their respective fields. Lol.

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Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

That had to be modified to be lethal and still failed. Lol.

Edited by MaccyD

Villains aren't OP, they're bigger challenges for your heroes.

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@wolverine08: Most viners who say that are either ignorant or wrong. I'm a Batman fan, and I know his limits. He's inferior to those people in those respective categories. It just irks me when people try to hate on Batman by claiming he's "over powered" dude has a hard time dealing with a clown lol.

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@the_stegman:

Most viners who say that are either ignorant or wrong. I'm a Batman fan, and I know his limits. He's inferior to those people in those respective categories.

Meh, most Viners have general knowledge on most popular character,s and Batman himself and go by hearsay and hype, so it's not surprising that they think Batman is an equal to those men in those respective fields. And Batman struggling with Joker is plot all the way. LMAO!

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Posted by Jack Donaghy

@jack_donaghy said:

Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

That had to be modified to be lethal and still failed. Lol.

The sad thing is Doom with a minute of prep, scratch that with no prep on a random encounter would probably beat the JL,now that's overpowered.

And only casual fans who watch movies and cartoons overrate Batman's abilities the majority of people who actually read comic books don't overrate him. I've seen fanboys who think Doom with out prep could beat Zoom, nobody thinks Batman could beat Zoom. Doom = BatGod.

Posted by Wolverine08

@wolverine08 said:

@jack_donaghy said:

Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

That had to be modified to be lethal and still failed. Lol.

The sad thing is Doom with a minute of prep, scratch that with no prep on a random encounter would probably beat the JL,now that's overpowered.

And only casual fans who watch movies and cartoons overrate Batman's abilities the majority of people who actually read comic books don't overrate him. I've seen fanboys who think Doom with out prep could beat Zoom, nobody thinks Batman could beat Zoom. Doom = BatGod.

True. Wouldn't say Doom is BatGod though.

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@maccyd: Well of course, he's the villain, he has to lose.

Posted by Jack Donaghy

@jack_donaghy said:

@wolverine08 said:

@jack_donaghy said:

Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

That had to be modified to be lethal and still failed. Lol.

The sad thing is Doom with a minute of prep, scratch that with no prep on a random encounter would probably beat the JL,now that's overpowered.

And only casual fans who watch movies and cartoons overrate Batman's abilities the majority of people who actually read comic books don't overrate him. I've seen fanboys who think Doom with out prep could beat Zoom, nobody thinks Batman could beat Zoom. Doom = BatGod.

True. Wouldn't say Doom is BatGod though.

In a way he is I hear people justify the things he does by saying he's a villain and he's supposed to be a huge threat I get that. But so is someone like Lex Luthor and even he doesn't quite have feats to stand against Doom. Thanos respects Doom and keeps an eye on him Darkseid doesn't do the same for Batman or Luthor. And Doom's losses are always explained as it being a Doombot it feels like he legit never ever loses. Doom is at worst the 2nd smartest man on Earth and one of the world's greatest magicians, his intelligence is shown to be superhuman even though he doesn't have superhuman intelligence.

Oh yeah and he can kill a lion with his bare hands so he's also a peak human physically, not to mention his very high will. He is shown to be smarter than someone like the Leader who actually is super humanly smart, that's like if Batman was shown to be stronger than Superman. It's kind of fanboyish on the writers parts to make Doom smarter than people who should be smarter than him. People call Batman BatGod for knowing a lot of different martial arts and being a genius detective and scientist while Doom is also very good at many things. There are plenty of similarities between the 2.

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@jack_donaghy said:

@wolverine08 said:

@jack_donaghy said:

@wolverine08 said:

@jack_donaghy said:

Guys how is Batman overpowered? Someone like Black Panther is probably does even more ridiculous things than he does. People always love to bring up how he' never beaten the JL (even though he had plans to) and how he's never beaten Superman. Doom on the other hand is like a cartoon character he's like meme Chuck Norris and BatGod x Infinity Batman has NOTHING on how overpowered Doom is. And I like Doom but c'mon he has the feats that show he is OP Batman doesn't even come close to him. People just predictably jumping on the Batman bashing bandwagon as usual.

That had to be modified to be lethal and still failed. Lol.

The sad thing is Doom with a minute of prep, scratch that with no prep on a random encounter would probably beat the JL,now that's overpowered.

And only casual fans who watch movies and cartoons overrate Batman's abilities the majority of people who actually read comic books don't overrate him. I've seen fanboys who think Doom with out prep could beat Zoom, nobody thinks Batman could beat Zoom. Doom = BatGod.

True. Wouldn't say Doom is BatGod though.

In a way he is I hear people justify the things he does by saying he's a villain and he's supposed to be a huge threat I get that. But so is someone like Lex Luthor and even he doesn't quite have feats to stand against Doom. Thanos respects Doom and keeps an eye on him Darkseid doesn't do the same for Batman or Luthor. And Doom's losses are always explained as it being a Doombot it feels like he legit never ever loses. Doom is at worst the 2nd smartest man on Earth and one of the world's greatest magicians, his intelligence is shown to be superhuman even though he doesn't have superhuman intelligence.

Oh yeah and he can kill a lion with his bare hands so he's also a peak human physically, not to mention his very high will. He is shown to be smarter than someone like the Leader who actually is super humanly smart, that's like if Batman was shown to be stronger than Superman. It's kind of fanboyish on the writers parts to make Doom smarter than people who should be smarter than him. People call Batman BatGod for knowing a lot of different martial arts and being a genius detective and scientist while Doom is also very good at many things. There are plenty of similarities between the 2.

Exactly he's a cheat code. He has everything all wrapped in one package and I honestly don't see this as attractive in a villain. It's really odd. Many other villains have actual faults and flaws and can be beaten by smarts, force, or plot convenience but it doesn't seem like Doom is beatable by anything other than the plot. And even then he'll get away.

This is why I don't think I can get behind him as a plausible villain, HE'S TOO GOOD. He's technically complete as a character. No room to grow he's got all that he wants being a Monarch and insanely intelligent man. And it seems like CIS for him to wanna compete with Reed in smarts if he's goddamn monarch, seriously, he's got a nation, Reed has an office. I'll admit I don't know entire motivations but it seems someone of his intelligence wouldn't let himself be blighted by megalomania.

Edited by tigerkaya

Please Batman and Punisher are far worst with the way writers keep propping them up as the supreme kings of prep and kicking other heroes to the ground. Thats why I can't enjoy Batman comics anymore he's become a being of pure pis with every I can beat every hero using their weakness.

Posted by Joygirl

Stop trying to make hax a thing. It's never gonna be a thing.

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Posted by DeathandGrim

Please Batman and Punisher are far worst with the way writers keep propping them up as the supreme kings of prep and kicking other heroes to the ground. Thats why I can't enjoy Batman comics anymore he's become a being of pure pis with every I can beat every hero using their weakness.

I've had no complaints about Batman's current series. Haven't gotten to the old just yet, but from I've heard. Yup, preplord. But at least his plans can fail.

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@joygirl: oshit you changed your picture. Why?

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That was kind of a while ago... the why would be because I change them every few weeks.

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@mitran said:

Magic, technology, and the top genius in the world.

Arguably the "top genius in the (Marvel) world" but yes ^this^. He knows a great deal of magic and he is quite known for his intellect so he can pull it off.

I mean didn't Superman raise an Island and threw it at the sun... Oh did I forget to mention THE ISLAND WAS MADE OUT OF KRYPONITE... Kryptonite. Superman raised an Island made out of Kryptonite and threw it at the sun.

Batman can hang with the JL and defeat cosmic beings but he still struggles with regular psychopaths on a daily basis?

but then if you think about it, there's a guy flying around shooting fire out of his eyes, there's a guy swinging on spider webs, there's a woman flying an invisible plane, there's a alien eating planets, there's a guy who has metal claws that come out of his fist... And YOU want to complain about Doom's armor?

It's fiction bro

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Posted by BlackLegRaph

Please Batman and Punisher are far worst with the way writers keep propping them up as the supreme kings of prep and kicking other heroes to the ground. Thats why I can't enjoy Batman comics anymore he's become a being of pure pis with every I can beat every hero using their weakness.

I would strongly disagree. This mostly comes from people who don't know much about Batman. He has made a lot of plans to beat people with their weaknesses that have failed. There are fields that are completely beyond him, like magic, but not so for Doom. Doom is literally everything, not only a scientific genius, but also magical. Batman has never beaten Superman in canon, but Doom tosses around every major team in the MU on a regular basis, even stopping Mjolnir's strikes with just his regular armour. Something that not even a amped Hulk could do.

Plus when Batman fails, he fails and the blame's all on him. When Doom fails, it was just a doombot, because the real Doom is apparently above meagre things like failure. Batman has been beaten by street levelers and is beaten by them quite regularly or even if only temporarily, Doom can't even be beaten by gods!

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@maccyd said:

@jack_donaghy: @the_stegman: You know Doom has been beaten a helluva lot more times than Batman has, right?

Well obviously a villain is going to lose more than a hero, plus you have to factor in times it was a Doombot and not actually Doom.

And I agree with @BlackLegRaph when Doom loses oh what do you know it's a Doombot when Batman loses it was just him. Doom is far more protected by the writers than Batman ever has been. Doom just doesn't get called out on his fanwanky moments because he's an internet darling so everyone lets it slide when he gets biased "OMG DOOM IS AWESOME!" writing in his favor.

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