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#1 Edited by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

Uhh... I hope to hell they know what they are doing.

Gal Gadot, while having a pretty face and she may develop an athletic build before filming, she has the figure of a 12 year old.

I can't comment on her acting ability, I haven't seen any of her movies.

#2 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

@shiryu said:

@deadpool said:

@shiryu said:

@deadpool: Wow. I wasn't expecting anyone to actually care about what I posted. Thanks. I guess I can see why Obito went crazy, but I just feel that he just fits the same tortured soul mold of just about every villain in Naruto. Think about it:

1. Orochimaru (orphaned at an early age)

2. Kabuto (doesn't even know who his biological parents are; something happened to his adoptive mother but I forgot what exactly that was)

3. Nagato (orphaned at an early age; lost his best friend Yahiko; noticing a trend?)

4. Sasuke (do I even have to bother?)

Hell, even Madara has a tragic backstory (all of his brothers died during one of the great shinobi wars, and he couldn't even protect Izuna.) I just hoped we Naruto fans would finally get that one irredeemable villain that goes against everything Naruto stands for, but when it finally seems we got that, the villain turns out to be almost a palette swap of Naruto who unfortunately enjoyed a less fortunate childhood/adolescence. I'm very disappointed and I might just end up sticking solely to One Piece as far as manga is concerned. Maybe a few light novels too, but after Naruto ends I'm pretty much finished with manga.

The least Kishi can do is write a little epilogue into the final chapter. I'd be happy with that, I think.

You're absolutely correct. The Narutoverse isn't a place of black & white, and the antagonists are just that because their ideals and goals conflict with Naruto's. Even of the Akatsuki, they were mostly just rogue ninjas that got screwed over by their respective villages, and they mostly weren't any more evil than someone like Kakashi. They are ninjas, they are largely morally ambiguous and they fight, steal, spy, and kill for money.

Even then, Naruto's views and goals are unrealistic and could only exist in a fictional world, and his views of a ninja that he desperately clings to is that of a superhero. What's weird is that he rejects Obito's passive and guaranteed way of bringing peace into the world and instead embraces his way of changing the world is through fascism, beating up anyone that disagrees with him, and somehow might makes right. The stronger he gets, the more people change to his beliefs. Hell, there's only a war right now in the series because nobody wants what Obito's selling, ironically showing how much they don't want peace.

The only real villains, to me, have been Madara, Nagato and Orochimaru.

That's actually pretty funny when you put it that way. If a villain doesn't conform to Naruto's way of thinking, he pulverizes them until they do. I was hoping that Naruto would become a more mature character in part II, but he's more like, "To hell with understanding anyone else's point of view! I'll solve problems with my fists!"

However, I was thinking; if Obito were to succeed with the Moon's Eye Plan, wouldn't that mean at any given time he could decimate everyone as a result of his feeling like it? I mean, all that power would be bound to go to his head at some point. He may have even tried to restart civilization or something by using some yet-unknown power of the Sage of Six Paths (I'm sure he has plenty of abilities that Kishimoto is coming up with as he goes along.) So, in that regard, perhaps Naruto is justified in being opposed to Obito's idea of peace. Just a possibility, though.

As far as the villains, I really was hoping that Orochimaru would get a power boost to compete with some of the more powerful antagonists, but now I see a power boost would ruin the character and put him into psuedo-DBZ territory, which seems to be where the manga is headed.

All I can say is that I really hope the Naruto vs. Madara fight doesn't end the way I think it will. Right now, I'm picturing a final Rasengan/Chidori attack on Madara, followed by a speech about friendship being the ultimate source of power on Naruto's behalf.

The further this manga goes on, the more I realize that Jiraiya was the best thing to ever happen to this story.

Naruto seems to use comparative reasoning, he's all like "I went through hard stuff in my life just like you, and I didn't let it change me." And everyone's like "You're a perfect person, maybe I should be more like you." It happened with Neji, Gaara, Nagato, etc. But yeah, he has to hit them quite a few times really hard in the head before they start to think like that, lmao.

Obito was buying what he was selling, he wanted to complete the Moon's Eye Plan and be under it's spell with everyone else, so I don't think he'd be able to do anything... Madara on the otherhand, he's bloodthirsty, he lives for battle, and I don't trust him to be in control of the jutsu at all. Naruto and the others oppose Obito's use of the Moon's Eye Plan because they thinks it's a false peace created through a lie, but Obito argues it's peace none the less and is actually obtainable. He has a point, there are always going to be people like Madara and Orochimaru popping up and making trouble, and life is one big competition; for one to prosper another must suffer, and people always want more than their fair share. In order to end wars you pretty much need to eliminate the need for wars, and the only real way to do that is to change people. That's the flaw in capitalism, it encourages greed and betrayal. But alternatively, things like communism fail because no one wants to work harder for others to reap the benefits.

The manga has hit DBZ levels a long time ago. But honestly, Orochimaru is far more powerful than people realize, the problem is that we've never seen Orochimaru's true power. In pt.1 when he was at full strength, he was toying with Genin, Jonin like Kakashi, and the elderly Hiruzen whom even in his weakened state was still considered the strongest of the Gokage (Ei, Onoki, Yagura, Gaara Sr.). Ever since then Orochimaru's spiritual arms were sealed and he couldn't use ninjutsu, he could only use his summons and body modifications, and even then Orochimaru was able to toy with Four-Tailed Kyuubi Naruto and Sasuke admitted inferiority to him. But now Orochimaru's back, has his soul arms back, and has been deemed a threat to EMS Sasuke. Hell, Orochimaru was Jiraiya's rival, and Jiraiya possessed the capability of defeating Nagato. The Sannin are monsters.

Madara is probably irredeemable, and Naruto will definitely need help from everyone especially since he might end up being more powerful than Obito.

Jiraiya was one of the best parts of the manga, and is really what got me into it to begin with.

#3 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool said:

I dislike Deadpool's cross-dressing just to get a laugh. But, I suppose I dislike Deadpool's overly obnoxious tendencies in general.

@juiceboks said:

Not that I hate or dislike this particular moment(I actually think it's pretty funny) but it's the fact he thinks Bea Arthur is sexier than Halle Berry that rubs me the wrong way..

In the last issue of Cable & Deadpool, Deadpool revealed he was joking about Bea Arthur. Also, he doesn't really like Chimichangas, he just likes saying it.

I vaguely remember that..it's been a while since I've read the issue. You wouldn't happen to have a scan of said oratory?

I'm sorry, I don't. But to paraphrase he said something like "Bea Ar-- eh, who am I kidding?"

#4 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

@shiryu said:

@deadpool: Wow. I wasn't expecting anyone to actually care about what I posted. Thanks. I guess I can see why Obito went crazy, but I just feel that he just fits the same tortured soul mold of just about every villain in Naruto. Think about it:

1. Orochimaru (orphaned at an early age)

2. Kabuto (doesn't even know who his biological parents are; something happened to his adoptive mother but I forgot what exactly that was)

3. Nagato (orphaned at an early age; lost his best friend Yahiko; noticing a trend?)

4. Sasuke (do I even have to bother?)

Hell, even Madara has a tragic backstory (all of his brothers died during one of the great shinobi wars, and he couldn't even protect Izuna.) I just hoped we Naruto fans would finally get that one irredeemable villain that goes against everything Naruto stands for, but when it finally seems we got that, the villain turns out to be almost a palette swap of Naruto who unfortunately enjoyed a less fortunate childhood/adolescence. I'm very disappointed and I might just end up sticking solely to One Piece as far as manga is concerned. Maybe a few light novels too, but after Naruto ends I'm pretty much finished with manga.

The least Kishi can do is write a little epilogue into the final chapter. I'd be happy with that, I think.

You're absolutely correct. The Narutoverse isn't a place of black & white, and the antagonists are just that because their ideals and goals conflict with Naruto's. Even of the Akatsuki, they were mostly just rogue ninjas that got screwed over by their respective villages, and they mostly weren't any more evil than someone like Kakashi. They are ninjas, they are largely morally ambiguous and they fight, steal, spy, and kill for money.

Even then, Naruto's views and goals are unrealistic and could only exist in a fictional world, and his views of a ninja that he desperately clings to is that of a superhero. What's weird is that he rejects Obito's passive and guaranteed way of bringing peace into the world and instead embraces his way of changing the world is through fascism, beating up anyone that disagrees with him, and somehow might makes right. The stronger he gets, the more people change to his beliefs. Hell, there's only a war right now in the series because nobody wants what Obito's selling, ironically showing how much they don't want peace.

The only real villains, to me, have been Madara, Nagato and Orochimaru.

#5 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

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#6 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

Who matches me best might be old school Joe Kelly Deadpool.

Orion is a close candidate too, particularly New 52 Orion since he actually has a sense of humor.

I try to act like Superman though.

#7 Edited by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

@shiryu said:

Definitely Obito Uchiha for me. As someone on Outskirts Battledome said, he became the "Narutoverse's New God. And it's because he was friendzoned."

Orochimaru had so much potential to be a great villain, and was built up to be the main antagonist of the series, but once Kishimoto starting focusing on the Uchiha and their Sharingan so often I knew something was changing. The same thing happened to Neji. All this talk about "genius of the Hyuga clan," and then it suddenly doesn't matter because he's not cursed with some "Hate of the Uchiha" BS or whatever it's called.

As a Naruto fan, it sucks to know that our final villain is a guy who had no motivation for all the crazy stuff he did besides the death of a girl who didn't even requite his romantic feelings for her. It's pathetic.

I have to defend Obito here.

Rin was the catalyst, not the cause. There's also nothing saying he was friendzoned, Rin showed more feelings towards Obito than Kakashi.

Think about it:

1. Obito was the black sheep of the most elite clan in Konoha.

2. His parents died, leaving him heart-broken and alone, and sought comfort and love from others.

3. He sacrificed himself for his teammates, suffered a traumatic near-death experience where half his body was crushed, and his eye was removed from his face to further help his friends.

4. He was locked in a psychotic warmonger's basement where he was brainwashed for months, hearing about how cruel and unfair the world is by an old, bitter, and cynical man. He also taught Obito that the problem with the world is the ninja system, and that to destroy the ninja system is to make it so that it's not needed anymore. The old warmonger's plan was to brainwash everyone into being happy, so that there would be no more need for fighting and bloodshed.

5. When he finally got out, it was just to see his best friend kill his quasi-girlfriend. Why was she killed? She sacrificed herself because the enemy basically strapped a bomb to her and wanted her to return to her village and destroy it.

That's when he finally snapped. Rin would still be alive if it weren't for the ninja system, his parents wouldn't be dead, and he wouldn't had been crushed half to death. So he embraced the warmonger's goals, wanting to brainwash the world into being happy, but a few eggs needed broken to make that dream a reality.

About Orochimaru and Neji though, I agree 100%. The manga really went downhill once it started to focus on the Uchiha, and pretty much when Nagato was introduced the whole manga started to feel like a giant fanfic. Yet, after 13 years, I at least want to see how it ends.

#8 Edited by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

Itachi from "Naruto."

Story: He knows the main villain framed his clan which led to distrust between them and the village, his clan got tired of it and wanted to take over the village, but Itachi was loyal to the village and killed his clansmen in an ambush... with the help of the man who he knew framed them and didn't tell anyone.

He couldn't kill his baby brother though and would actually betray his village for the sake of his baby brother, so he started manipulating his baby brother in order to drive him to get strong enough to kill him as a form of poetic justice. It all started when he mindraped his baby brother, forcing him to helplessly watch his entire family and clan get murdered over and over again for 3 days straight, and left him a drooling mess.

Since then his baby brother started to become a mental case, suffering from anxiety, anti-social tendencies, and an inferiority complex. But when his baby brother started to break out of his shell, to make friends and finally start to be happy again, Itachi stepped in and broke his arm, his ribs, and mindraped him into a drooling mess again, telling him that he didn't have enough hate and told him to murder his best friend, the star of the series, to unlock their clan's inner power.

This drove his baby brother to flee the village and join one of the village's worst enemies to get more powerful and attempted to kill his friends on numerous occasions, making him a wanted criminal; preferably dead. Then Itachi was finally confronted by his baby brother, which led to Itachi's death. But Itachi took a dive, and it's revealed that Itachi knew he was turning his baby brother into a psychopath and it was his plan to mindrape him one last time with a brainwashing spell to turn him into a good guy which would had made his baby brother a target for the main villains who were more powerful than Itachi.

His baby brother then learned the truth behind Itachi's actions and decided to get revenge on the village. Eventually he ran into a zombified Itachi that ignored him, lied to him, and told him that he isn't his problem anymore, before finally saying that he loves his baby brother even if he destroys the village. Now that Itachi is finally gone for good, it's currently unknown what his baby brother will ultimately do since the series isn't over yet.

Character: Itachi through other people's comments is described as a highly intelligent and insightful candy-loving pacifist that doesn't act without a reason and overall saint, but his actions depict him as cruel and merciless, an "ends justify the means" type, and just so happens to be one of the most efficient assassins in his village, and for being a genius his plans aren't very well thought out. He also has the personality of a rock, being stoic, monotoned, and doesn't say much but does gloat from time to time. Again, other characters' opinions of his personality contrast with his portrayal. He also, in my opinion, has one of the most generic character designs. I'm not one for flash and flair, or something that comes out of Lady Gaga's closet, but his plainess is perhaps the most unique thing about his design.

Abilities: Itachi's highly impressive, easily one of the top 20 characters power-wise. Although the series does a semi-decent job placing his level in the series by comparing him to a few other characters, he always gets plot hax on his side in fights which makes his powers ambiguous.

He's basically a horribly done marty stu and/or black hole sue type character that sometimes crosses the lines into god mode sue territory.

#9 Edited by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

#10 Posted by DEADPOOL (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

All of them.