darkman61288

I don't like the Superman\Wonder Woman relationship, but seriously guys: Lois Lane is the most boring female character I've ever seen.

Why Superman fanboys are so obsessed with her? there are a lot of great female characters in DC.

Why we can't have Superman and Dr Light, or Superman and Fatality, or Superman and Maxima for example. Hell, even a relationship with a female supervillain like Livewire or Volcana would be more interesting than "Lois and Clark",

So, what's so special about Lois?

Putting herself in situations where she's just a potential casualty is why people hate her and got tired of their relationship. It's not brave if she brings nothing to the table but worry, especially when it's completely unnecessary

@darkman61288:

That can get old too. One day a Superman is not alien, inspiration and an antihero might come around and his defenders will say many of the things you just said.

The day that gets old, is the day Superman ends for good. You can't simply remove Superman kryptonian heritage. Remove that, and he's no longer Superman. Many things have changed about Superman, but that as always remained the same, as it should.

He can be Earth's champion saving the on global scale while still be Clark and be with Lois and still work at the planet. The hell he can fight on a cosmic scale. Him having a life without the cape does not deter from that. In fact we had have stories were he is on a global level and on a cosmic level before. What you what has really been done before.

But that's the thing. When was the last time you saw an arc entirelly devoted to Superman being global or even cosmic. What we get 99% of the time, is he doing something in Metropolis. We see references of him having stopped a volcano, a tsunami, an asteroid from crashing on Earth. But what of global issues?? When does Superman tackles that? Most of the times, he doesn't. He reports the facts afterwards but rarely do we see him operating globally.

True that in the past, there had been tensions, with meating at the united nations, where they discussed Superman impact everytime he took down a dictator, or he simply helped defenseless people that live in countries ravaged by war. Even in America itself he doesn't really handles the tough problems. Not like for example Bruce does in Gotham.

I know Superman has that whole idea that if does everything, then humans don't learn and grow, and might even become too dependent of him. But those are all excuses from the writers. They simply don't want to tackle worldwide issues to avoid getting the wrong kind of attention. Or simply because drug dealers, psycopaths, and corruption are Batman area of expertise. And god forbids, Superman had to do something about the same kind of problems.

You might be satisfied with him being a reporter, working in the Daily Planet, but I'm not. When he comes to Metropolis why does everytime, Superman is the hero, while Clark is simply the reporter? Are you gonna tell me, Kal-El as Clark Kent and Superman, couldn't save the world using both his personas. As Clark Kent he could be, a doctor, a scientist, heck he could even be a fireman, and still be Superman. I personally believe that as Clark Kent he could be a freelancer R&D or own his R&D company. Developing new tech that he could sell in a way everyone could afford, that would save lives. All the while having all the time in the world to be Superman as well. Saving lives in both fronts.

More than once Superman as critized Lex Luthor, because Lex said and says that if it wasn't for Superman, he could've fixed all of Earth problems, cured diseases, end world hunger... But the fact remains that Superman himself also doesn't tackle those problems. He too uses Lex and all the other villains as an excuse for not living up to his full potential.

He says that he doesn't want people to get too dependent on him, but everytime he saves people from a tsunami, he's helping the government save money instead of them spending money to create the necessary systems to help prevent such disasters. Everytime he saves people from a burning building, he's preventing the loss of human lives that would drive people to rise up and demand better ways to prevent such loss of life.

In many ways Superman is a hypocrite mainly toward himself, when he creates those lines that differentiate, what he does that doesn't causes minimal impact and what he could do that would cause too much impact. Because at the end of the day, everything he does and doesn't do, matters. Everything creates an impact. If he does too much, then people will ultimately grow too dependent on him and if he fails to be there when they need him, they'll blame him first(humans already do so everytime you read someone saying "Where was Superman?"). But if he decides to do too little, then he can't actually complain about the state the world is.

Has for Lois and the rest of the supporting cast. I stick to what I've said before and I add this... Lois isn't the only woman in the world that can be beautiful, smart, witty, and help keep Kal connected to humanity. DC only makes it so, because for decades it's been done this way. So why change, right?... And here is where Superman fans should say "Wrong! Lets change that. Lets try new characters with new attitudes and goals and see how it works out."

There are other heroes in the world besides them. They really don't need to be on a global scale. Now if DC ended the Shared Universe then maybe a need for a global Supes/ Flash.

True. There are others. But you don't see a global view. You see an American view. Like the whole world revolves around America. If America is saved from an alien invasion the world is saved.

Wouldn't you like to see how Superman would handle(or how the writters would handle) problems like North Korea? The problem in Syria? Wouldn't you like to see Superman tackle some of the worlds greatest issues? Wars, world hunger, corruption. Or to avoid problems like one day waking up and seeing that DC had been bombed, they could create similar situations on other planets and Superman would go and handle them.

Has for DC shared universe, the truth is, that Superman can't and shouldn't have to hold all the weight on his shoulders. There's room for everyone. The Flash, Batman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Shazam, Aquaman, Firestorm, Captain Atom, and so on and so on... The world is big enough for all of them. But for example, as Shazam and Wonder Woman problems and powers are in a way connected to the Earth, they can't handle cosmic problems. And here's where heroes like Superman, Cyborg, and Captain Atom, just to use these three as an example, could act and make the difference where others can't.

And I don't mind the idea of them working together. What I do mind is when a character (Superman) is chained down just so the other one's around him can shine. This is also why I've been a strong supporter of the idea that Superman shouldn't be a full time member of the Justice League but only an extreme scenarious character, that would be called upon, when it was clear the threat would require all of them to bring their A game to the table, not outshining one character in particular just so the other ones can have a sense of being needed.

Civil War 2 that is a new idea? Marvel repeats itself just like DC.

See? Here's the problem. You're looking at a forest but only seeing one tree.

What about Peter Parker new situation as the owner of a multinational company, that's tackling the world problems? What about his new approach creating that new suit that looks much like the basic suit but with incorporated details from past suits he also created? What about Tony Stark new approach and view on his life and his actions? The way comics like Guardians of the Galaxy, Inhumans, X-Men and the Ultimates, have brought so much interesting new approaches on things they've done in the past. And are once again doing it, only better.

That's the thing that currently differentiates DC and Marvel the most. DC tries to recycle their old material and have given us mostly cr*p. While Marvel as also been recycling and from my point of view, they've been doing one hell of a good job. Wish I could say the same thing about DC, but unfortunetely I can't.

@darkman61288:

No. No. And no.

The Daily Planet, Lois, his secret ID, are all choices. DC choices to handle Superman.

The real mythology resides in the fact that he's a alien that survives the destruction of his homeworld. He arrives on Earth and of all hypothesis, two of the best examples of the human race decide to raise him as their son. And they raise him to become the man he later on becomes. And that man will inspire an entire generation to remove themselves from the shadows and start to use their powers for good openly. And of course the powers that he somehow gets from our star.

This my friend, is Superman mythology. The last son of Krypton, the orphan that is raised by humans to become Earth greatest champion, Earth shinier example of self-sacrifice and commitment.

That can get old too. One day a Superman is not alien, inspiration and an antihero might come around and his defenders will say many of the things you just said.

The DP, Lois, Jimmy, Metropolis, they are choices. Choices that DC doesn't move away from. Not that they have to. But at the same time it makes little sense that someone as powerful as Superman bases most of his actions within the confines of that city. Superman in many ways should be like a Green Lantern, only global-wise.

He can be Earth's champion saving the on global scale while still be Clark and be with Lois and still work at the planet. The hell he can fight on a cosmic scale. Him having a life without the cape does not deter from that. In fact we had have stories were he is on a global level and on a cosmic level before. What you what has really been done before.

Look I get Batman and Gotham. I get Aquaman and his duality between Atlantis and the rest of humanity. I get Green Arrow. What I don't get is the Flash and Superman. Them being just two examples of people with powers that should make them global forces of justice, and not just these caged people whose lives revolve around the same old city and the same old people.

There are other heroes in the world besides them. They really don't need to be on a global scale. Now if DC ended the Shared Universe then maybe a need for a global Supes/ Flash.

Clark Kent could be Superman in any number of more productive, more interesting ways. But DC chooses to make the same choices and do the same things, over and over again.

That's why Marvel has been getting more positive reviews from the fans. They decided to actually evolve their characters. Place them in new scenarios. New challenges. New opportunities.

Civil War 2 that is a new idea? Marvel repeats itself just like DC.

Maybe if DC did the same, readers/fans would find the stories more compelling, more attractive.

This is of course my personal opinion. But one that is shared by increasingly more and more people. The old way of doing things simply isn't working anymore. I know it, and you know it as well.

You are partly right DC should do new stories. But these stories should be varied. Do a arc where He is battling a space tyrant in another galaxy, then follow that up with a story that focus more on Clark the reporter.

Been thinking about a legal sue against Romita Jr. for trauma caused by bad artwork. If I can avoid another comic drawn by Romita Jr. in the next 10 months won't still be enough.

Can't really answer to your questions. Haven't been following the Grayson comic. So you most likely know more about it than I do.

But seeing this is DC and Rebirth relaunch *coughreboot* is on its way. Maybe Supes will save some old woman (she's a gypsy or something like that) and tells him she can grant him any wish he wants. He doesn't really believes her but nonetheless says, he'd like so he could return to a life where no one knew he and Clark are the same person. She does so. And that's it. Identity fixed.

Or he'll be in some country in the end of the world, saving people from some warlord, he sees a strange stone in the ground, throws it to the river, wishing he could be able to return to the life he had before Lois blew his secret identity. The stone is magical and grants him that wish.

My point is that most likely DC will find some lameass loophole and will fix his identity, instead of exploring the new options, not having to be Clark Kent presents. Going global, having multiple alias. One for each spot on the planet he saw he was needed. Moving away from Metropolis. Nooooo.... DC will find some excuse and put him right back at the Daily Planet, like Truth never happened at all.