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#1 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix wins all rounds, but didn't Magneto give Green Phoenix a challenge, and Wolverine had to step in?

#2 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

Onslaught is Xavier but his dark side... He was able to TP Hulk and others with ease, he can do everything Pro X can do but except for holding back... He even messed up the Astral realm and was tearing it up with his TP.. I cant see the scans because my computer is slow but has Larfleeze fought anyone as powerful as an Xavier (blood lusted)?

@xiix said:

Without Franklin's power, telepathy should be Onslaught's ace in the hole(unless Larfleeze has some telepathic resistance I'm not aware of).

Possibly in reverse order.

Onslaught is Xavier but his dark side... He was able to TP Hulk and others with ease, he can do everything Pro X can do but except for holding back... He even messed up the Astral realm and was tearing it up with his TP.. I cant see the scans because my computer is slow but has Larfleeze fought anyone as powerful as an Xavier (blood lusted)?

#3 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

Larfleeze should win 1 + 3 pretty easily, what's Onslaughts best feat with Franklin Richards powers? Onslaught should probably win round 2.

Has Larfleeze fought pure thought before? The last round says full power, and Onslaught was able to turn into pure thought... He made another sun with Franklin's powers..

#4 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix said:
@ghostravage said:

so you have no feats for Apocalypse deliberately Tping someone?

This one, short, simple sentence basically nullifies a good 90 something percent of all arguments used for Apocalypse.

Um not really some of the scans are on my page and I gave some of the issue numbers as in the 12 and others, so my argument is still good but no one has proved why Hulk wins besides he is just strong against someone who can blow himself up and regenerate in seconds, so Hulk is not going to do nothing to Apocalypse and that is a fact...

#5 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc: That's the point, he didn't TP them, he didn't get into their minds and talked to them there, he didn't mind controlled them, he just created feed back with their own TP. I don't know how he did it, but those are hardly TP instances... The fact that NONE of his handbook entries NAME the ability increases the skepticism mate, handbooks don't have all the feats but they sure as hell have all the abilities. How exactly is Apocalypse BFRing Hulk?

He was able to battle Jean Grey in Cable's mind so how do you think he was able to do that? I have to find the issues name and number, but yes he was able to get in Cable's mind (the child version) when Jean tried saving his life.... Well Apocalypse was able to teleport his own fortress and himself, and he also teleported Hulk before as well so I would say that is how he would bfr him wouldn't you? Another thing, what defenses does Hulk have against having his lungs filled with toxic gas? I ask because in Blood of Apocalypse, Apocalypse taught Gambit how to do that as Gambit even stated... Apocalypse could also make the Hulk feel like he is starving as his horseman famine has done.... Oh and even in the 12 his horsemen Calban was making Cable's team sick and dying by using his pestilence powers to affect their minds... Apocalypse gave his horsemen the powers to do these things with his celestial tech so nothing to prove that Apocalypse could not do the same..

#6 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@ghostravage: It's from my old CAV. Here is the scan which details he's weakened.

Isn't this from Thanos "Imperative?" When did he destroy a planet in the comic? Did I read what you said wrong or did you say Thanos was weak and destroyed a planet?

#7 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc: so you have no feats for Apocalypse deliberately Tping someone? I mean don't you think the fact that he only has feedback feats against telepaths is freaking convenient? Even more when NONE of his handbook and encyclopedia entries state he has telepathy and on top of that he explicitly states he needs to prepare for telepaths and notes how telepathy is the greatest of powers? He does not have telepathy and you have no proof to showcase it. It's funny you mentioned Sinister back then when all his entries actually state his telepathy off the bat. Apocalypse cant be TP'd for whatever the reason it might be but he has no offensive way to affect peoples minds with his own power. Apocalypse loses like the overrated character he is.

Explain how he TP'D Xavier and Jean? Just because a handbook does not have everything feat a person has does not mean nothing.. Just because Apocalypse said he needs to prepare himself for telepath's means nothing either. He is talking about more than one, now show me where he said he has to prepare himself against 1 telepath? Funny how you over look what I write but I said even if Apocalypse could not TP Hulk, he could bfr him.. Hulk loses sorry just like the really overrated character he is... There is nothing the Hulk can do to Apocalypse..

#8 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc: Im growing tired of these arguments. Show me Apocalypse successfully TPing someone rather than just create feedback to telepaths through TK and Celestial Tech. I don't want any shocks back at telepaths, i want a feat that shows Apocalypse deliberately TPing someone under his control and not just someone, but someone on Hulk's tier of TP resistance. It worths to say, im incredibly skeptical about it, i mean, i don't expect you to find any instance that clearly shows Apocalypse TP, which actually was seriously implied to lack on Apocalypse's powerset when he literally mentions to Jean Grey he needs to prepare against telepaths and that telepathy is the greatest of powers.

That said...

What is Hulk going to do to someone who can regenerate within seconds?

I don't know, f*cking chew him for eternity? The point is Hulk is not losing here and Apocalypse has no way to win.

So Hulk has a stronger mind than Xavier or Jean Grey? He was able to ko Xavier with his TP in the 12 and also Jean in further Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix... The scans are on my page not that you will accept them though? So Apocalypse can K.O Hulk by doing what he did to Xavier and Jean unless Hulk's mind is more powerful than Jean (with some of the Phoenix Force) and Xavier's? Hulk is not going to win and if that does not work he can bfr him, so either way Apocalypse wins..

#9 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc: Hulk didn't fight Thanos in Infinity #6, Thanos punched Hulk away and later was taken out by Proxima and Corvus using high end plot devices weapons. As for Black Bolt damaging Thanos, he really didn't, at least not significantly, let alone those shouts being incredibly inferior to the ones Hulk took in World War Hulk story arc who were strong enough to release chunks of moon the size of long island in his fight. Moreover, the fact Black Bolt was weakened after fighting Thanos was because of the Terrigan Bomb, not exactly by exerting himself fighting Thanos.

Before you say Green Scar incarnation was stronger than current Hulk and all that, Hulk after the Core Breach in Sakaar got a permanent boost in his strength, hence why i was referring to Post-2006 Hulk performing on planetary scale. Everything that comes after Pak's run is in fact, Hulk with the permanent boost and this is actually stated in 2 handbook entries, World War Hulk: Gamma Files from 2010 and Marvel Facts Files #5 from 2014... The latter is the latest biographical entry available so far, anyway, here it is...

What is Hulk going to do to someone who can regenerate within seconds? This is why on the Superman vs Apocalypse everyone pretty much agreed Apocalypse wins because brute strength is not going to stop him, and Apocalypse has TP'D one of the most powerful TP users in Marvel, and Jean Grey who has some of the powers of the Phoenix in her, so why cant he do the same to Hulk? Thanos did correct? Also even Sinister was able to mess with Xavier's mind, and he is way below Apocalypse.. Maybe the TP will not last on the Hulk but it should give Apocalypse time to figure out a way to deal with the Hulk. My case is that Apocalypse has more ways of winning than Hulk does, even if this new Hulk is more stronger.

#10 Posted by darklord_apoc (1346 posts) - - Show Bio

@darklord_apoc: the tech enhanced hulks abilities, It wouldn't work the same with apocalypse. It allowed hulk to use his strength without getting angry among other things.

Apocalypse is not going to make someone stronger than himself, he never has before, and it does not make sense for him to start with someone as brainless and brute strength as the Hulk. Thanos has TP'd the Hulk if I am not mistaken and turned him against his teammates? Also Apocalypse has reality warping powers as he did in the "Ages of Apocalypse", so how can Hulk handle all of that? Sorry, but it is not like the Hulk has the mindset of Batman or Dr. Doom along with brute strength.. Apocalypse knows the Hulk and he will use his tech against the Hulk, so Hulk is not stomping nor does he solo.. Apocalypse is not going to give Hulk time to become angrier or stronger. There is nothing Hulk can do to a fully powered Apocalypse.. Apocalypse can regenerate himself and the scans are on my page, and he so far does not get tired of fighting and can hang, so as everyone says Hulk can solo I really would like to know how? Apocalypse can bfr him as he has done to others, and then speed blitz the rest of this team..