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@tyger:

Yep. You can even tell that the claws are bone. XD

@doom_phd: Actually The Speed Force is said to warp physics, so technically you could just blame The Flash's physics destroying power as he is able to allow the effect of physics or basically not allow them. That is why I never agree with calling The Flash a speedster. He's more a reality warper with a really narrow realm of influence. lol

@nefarious: I assume the Universes that Beerus brought up in BoGs. He talks about gods and fighters stronger than him, so seems likely.

@dextersinister: That's fine, but they also aren't media darlings used to push the media's mean world narrative.

They don't have to, seeing as sports riots won't get 1/1000th the press exposure that civil unrest will. Or about 1/1000,000 the references to "animals".

See my problem isn't that anyone is trying to justify anything, but rather that we have far too many people pretending that they don't know what violent emotional outbursts are and then they go on to pretend that people rioting are trying to make some sort of statement or solve some sort of problem when it is obvious that when you get a mob of any size and said mob gets upset, the results are often the same and it has never mattered what the cause was or whom the mob is made up of. But you know, people have to be ignorant or it has to be because they're poor...anything but human nature.

@veitha: Rockslide is Italian-American actually.

@lvenger: As I said in my post, I'm not saying you are being misogynistic, but I've discussed this enough to have seen a good amount of it, in fact I point out in the same post there that I wasn't going to aim that at anyone and I'm not. That however doesn't stop it from having happened. Here is the thing...I don't care about outstanding female characters, I don't care about outstanding minority characters, and at my core I don't care a whole lot for people in general. By in large I'm pretty anti-social, but like Abridged Alucard before me...I feel that I hate all peoples equally. So with that said I'm going to point out that I don't really care what Marvel's ulterior motives are with the female Thor. I do not care. Business practices while affecting the comics, don't really have a place when discussing if comics or the characters within them are going to be good or interesting. What I do care about are if said characters are going to be good or interesting and I don't really need time travelers telling me how long this or that story development is going to last.

So far the argument has been a matter of semantics. I'm sorry Lvenger, you and anyone else have the right to feel exactly as you'd like about this and how things are going, but again we have no idea if the character is actually going to refer to themselves as Thor and more than that if she does, there is a precedent in the comics of Thor's mantle being taken up by other characters. People are free to feel how they like, but this just keeps coming back to people being upset for the sake of being upset with no idea about what is going to happen within the story in particular and the canon at large. Marvel isn't beholden to anything except maybe their investors and the rest of us are more than capable of voting with our wallets for what we do or do not want.

@arthurkerr: That was the later retcon. So yeah, I read the comics. Oh and lets not forget that it is later quasi-retocnned again as Blake exists after the deaths of the Asgardians and it was him that brought Thor back from death for us to actually have the Ragnarok cycle broken series going on now. Also Donald Blake current being a head lulled eternally by nightmare creatures sort of again points to him not being Thor transformed by Odin.

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You can totally make that comparison. Because while Tolkien created his own mythos, that mythos still draws heavily both from Norse myth, European mythology, and European history. His characters are unique, their circumstances and cultures not necessarily so. I for one get tired of the Joseph Campbell style examination of archetypes and themes but just because it has become tiresome that doesn't in turn change the truth of it. Also I didn't say Tolkien personally but rather I said Tolkinesque which covers a variety of modern fantasy works that borrow both from his works (and by default their inspirations as well). Let me just say, at the end of the day the writer only owes the source material as much respect as they are willing to give it against the needs of the story or the rules on the established world.

Marvel for the most part uses the outline of Norse Mythology, the cliff notes as it were. If you know Norse myth, then you know we haven't seen anything close to the entire pantheon in the pages of Thor and honestly at anytime they are more than okay with just making up a god or goddess on the fly. Marvel within the Marvel Universe does indeed considered their Thor to be the god of myth but that has nothing to do with the mythology beyond that being the setting. All the time in Thor characters fail to match up with their mythological counterparts and the in universe answer is always, this is the truth that was just legend or if not that exact explanation, then something to that extent anyway.

@a_a_a: Ah. The cave in Norway thing makes more sense when I see it that way.

They are referring not to Thor's actual mythological birth but of the original Thor story which starts :

Have to agree with this actually. The Gotham Legal System are the greatest jerks/villains comics has ever seen.

@fresh_prince said:

Nope, people are just running with what was said in an interview and here we are down the rabbit hole. Never mind that fact that Donald Blake wasn't originally Thor and that at the time of its inception the character was someone else becoming the mythological god in a literal sense.

@a_a_a: I honestly can't say one way or another. I think Marvel likes to reference mythology when they can, but I know for a fact that they couldn't care less if it conflicts with the story they want to tell. If we need an example of this, look no farther than Ragnarok as a concept. It became too inconvenient and now it is gone.

As for Thor fans having a problem with it..I'm a Thor fan. I don't care what she calls herself, I care if the stories are good and I care what happens to Thor in general and I care that people aren't making the fandom look bad by freaking out unprovoked and spouting off misogyny as if that is somehow justified by the situation. I'm not aiming that last at anyone, but it is definitely something I don't want to see. I've said it once, I'll say it again, time will tell the tale as far as this goes and I'd argue that no one knows anything and that is sort of why this all is pretty depressing because of how uninformed we all are.