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this would be a more apt comparison to the greek Titans rather then the gross misrepresentation you are trying push here, the Chaos being the formation of planets with earthquakes and fire and whatnot.
this would be a more apt comparison for a Coatli god even though it is still grossly under represented. XP
@justleader said:
@Dark King:
And you have proof right? so show me that the universe is a solar system, i want to see the proof, and in orphic cosmogony there is a multiverse, there are infinite universes:
The basic Cosmologic priciples of the Hellenic religion derive from Orphean theology, as preserved through the centuries in the Fragmenta Orphicorum. Other sources are the Orphean Hymns to the Gods and the living oral tradition, which was never extinguished, although it survived underground:
The Cosmos [viewed as the infinite multitude of Universes (conglomerates of matter), within the infinite Space and perpetual Time] has always existed, is self-motivated, self-regulated and ever-changing (evolving)
Source: http://apollonios.tripod.com/hellenic/pf_hellenic.html
http://apollonios.tripod.com/hellenic/eea4.html
The world is perpetual and consists of an infinite number of universes.
source: http://apollonios.tripod.com/hellenic/eea6.htmlhttp://apollonios.tripod.com/hellenic/eea6.html
And Chaos and Aether constitute these infinite universes and there are couple of beings who are above them, so any multiversal being can solo Quetzalcoatl and his mythology.
the proof of is the cultural context of what was known at the time by the people who made the stories and what the cosmos was to them. The fact that Mount Olympus and the Mount Othrys is on earth and in Thessaly should be warning bells to you. but, if you want proof type greek cosmos on google and see what the greeks knew and understood to be the cosmos. they actually drew the cosmos and made diagrams to go along with their myth stories.
this is what pisses me off about you guys on here you never sat in a college class and took mythology or cultural courses and yet you come here spouting you bull like you know your stories and cultural context as if you have an understanding of what the greeks thought of the universe. you really think that their understanding went to what we know now? these guys concept of cosmos was simply order and the planets which sung music, and were in harmony with one another in a mythological reference.
The Ultimate Greek Cosmological Model
Homer and Hesiod:Chariots of Fire in the Vault of Heaven
There are hints of the Greek conception of the universe in Homer, who mentions many subjects on his two epics describing war and the perils of trying to come home after long absence. For Homer, heaven is a solid inverted bowl (Od. 15.329sideron ouranon) straddling the earth, with fiery, gleaming aither above the cloud-bearing air. (Il. 14.288 `fir-tree reached through the aer to aither).[1] Homer mentions the movements of sun (Od. 4.404), moon, and many stars by name. The fact that Hades is on the underside of earth has an important impact on conceptions of heaven: it is unlit by the sun (in Homer and in Hesiod), therefore, the sun--and by extension, other heavenly bodies-- must sink only to the level of Ocean, which is conceived as a river circling earth's edge. From it the Sun must also rise--though how it gets back to the eastern bank of Ocean is never explained.
Caption: Ptolemaic cosmology, artwork. The Ptolemaic system was recorded in the Almagest of the 2nd-century Greek philosopher Ptolemy. It was a geocentric system (one centred on the Earth). The heavenly bodies circled the Earth attached to spheres. At centre are the four elements of Earth, Water, Air and Fire. Then there are successive spheres for the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The other planets had not been discovered at that time. The five planets are labelled with their astrological symbols. The four outer spheres are: the Firmament (including the stars); the Crystalline Heaven; the Primum Mobile; and the Empyreal Heaven, the Abode of the Blessed. This is the system that was replaced by a heliocentric (sun-centred) model.
the cosmological principles from your link are not what the ancient myths taught nor are they the philosophical foundation of the myth stories. they are however newer philosophies which began to appear in greek science, studies of the cosmos. but, they do not go hand in hand with the myth stories anymore than the bible/christianity goes hand in hand with quantum physics.
learn the difference between what the masses thought about their mythology/religion and their understanding of the universe rather than what the elites were thinking and doing in their sciences.
you should do yourself a favor and attend college or a university and learn about cultural context and mythology rather than assert the bull here on comic vine where no one will challenge you.
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