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I personaly don't see the purpose of wondering who is stronger than the other, since in the end it is the writers who determine the outcome of every fight and if they want it to go oneway, it will go that way. Personaly although I consider them roughly even in physical strength, at least when Hulk is at base andThor having access to a wider range of powers, a fight between them should end in a stalemate- wasn't that the status quo for years- that there was no clear victor between these two? Though if one does get of a win the other should get one as well at somepoint to balance it out. Thats my point of view anyway.

@Urliq said:

I was a bit confused what it meant when Loki ate Ikol the bird inside his mind in the Everything Burns Aftermath issue. Is that him destroying the part of his mind that still had the old Loki within it? Does that mean that Mephisto can still use the Crown of Fear to take Satan's Throne and rule all the realms of Hell? Just wasn't very clear on the meaning of those last 2 pages.

Its the opposite by swallowing Ikol he allowed Old Loki to overwrite kid Loki as represented by the line "swallow the lie" . So the Fear Crown stopped working because kid Loki no longer exists.

Here is a link to the writer talking about the ending http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/34522875244/one-for-sorrow-why-did-kieron-do-it

@PowerHerc: He hasn't appeared yet but has been referenced once in WW 13 by Apollo " I would have agreed , had I not witnessd another of fater's children display power in a way that would put the Lion to shame."- referring to Wonder Woman vs Artemis.

@dum529001 said:

I'm just saying that some people (Hulk haters) will give credit to anyone but Hulk. Some haters may even admit that Hulk is powerful but then add a "but". I say that besides, Galactus, Death, and Eternity, Hulk's the strongest there is. No "buts" about it.

What is this, you call me a hater just because I dont see Hulk as being able to be beat everyone but those three? Hulk is one of my favorite charachters not due to his powerlevel but due to his sitation and the turmil that comes with being what he is. THAT is what makes Hulk a cool charachter not his strength there are plenty of strongmen in superhero comics but it is the Hulks nature that makes him different and intersting not that he can HULK SMASH everyone.

I am not hating on Hulk, he is one of my favourite heroes, but that doesn't mean I think he is unbeatable. and when did I ever say that the fact that he cant die is why he would be boring. ANY charachter who constantly wins without any defeats or possible defeats time after time would be boring, not that he cant die, and it has nothing to do with how heroic that charachter may or may not be.

@dum529001: Have you not been listening? An unstoppable protaganist= BORING there is no challenge, no threat and incase you missed and I put it in bold but here it is again Finally, he can be hurt or even killed by cosmic entities or extraordinarily powerful individuals for which Zeus qualifies. I dont know why you keep trying to say the Hulk can't be stopped when he has been. He is not a force of nature, he might tap into one, but he is not it. Though we all agree that the Hulk is a powerful charachter we cant you just agree that there are individuals who are stronger that can beat him?

@dum529001 said:

@Kellar21

First of all, as I said before and as anyone can tell you, molecules are made of atoms. The cells of the body is made of atoms and molecules. It's not as complicated as you were making it out to be.

Secondly, If you want to argue false statements about Hulk's regeneration, go ahead. I can't stop you but as I said before Hulk's gamma power bio-mass increase matches any stress(effective working force) enough so that his damage/any physiological effects becomes marginally superficial and nonlethal. That's how his powerset works. If you just don't know that then you should read more comics. If just you can't accept that for what it is or can't grasp that concept then I don't know what else to do.

And finally, Quasars,Pulsars,and supernovas are all just different ways that gamma ray bursts can occur.

A supernova is just an exploding sun but gamma ray burst in space usually shoot out in the form of a concentrated jet stream instead of in a spherical shaped explosion.

But a GRB is a very different creature to an 'average' supernova. Via a mechanism that is poorly understood, intense narrow jets of hot plasma are blasted from the dead star's rotational axis. Intense radiation is also produced. If one of those jets are pointing directly at Earth, we'll see an explosion that seems too powerful to be a supernova. That's a gamma-ray burst.

When a massive star dies, it collapses in on itself under the force of gravity. This happens when the star runs out of fuel to maintain fusion reactions in its core. Once fusion stops, outward radiation pressure diminishes and the star catastrophically implodes under the sheer gravitational pressure of its own mass. During the implosion, a shock wave rips through the stellar core, triggering a supernova.

Lets settle this by posting the offical list of Hulks weaknesses

Adamantium and vibranium has been shown capable of piercing Hulk's skin; in World War Hulk, Wolverine, X-23, and Black Panther's claws could pierce it. Physically there is no significant weakness in the Hulk's body, but as mentioned above, vibranium and adamantium are usually portrayed as able to pierce the Hulk's skin. However, constantly the damage is almost immediately regenerated. In the past he was frequently vulnerable to gamma radiation draining by sufficiently powerful energy manipulators. However, currently he acquired an undefined degree of immunity to this resource, as evidenced in Planet Hulk and World War Hulk. Great doses of gas can also temporarily detain the Hulk, but has no permanent effect, since Hulk often dissipates the gas with a thunderclap. Hulk's durability level depends on the amount of adrenaline circulating through his body; smaller quantities cause more susceptibility to weaknesses as Hulk´s durability returns to more basic levels. The Hulk's rage can also be suppressed; this is exemplified by Betty Ross or the Sentry successfully calming him down in several instances. Finally, he can be hurt or even killed by cosmic entities or extraordinarily powerful individuals, and under some conditions be psichically manipulated by exceptionally powerful telepaths.

I belive Zeus qualifies as an extraordinary powerful individual

Here is a quote from an interview with Jason Aaron the current writer of Thor about the latest series

As you mentioned Young Thor is without his signature weapon, the uru hammer Mjolnir. Is it fair to say this younger version of Thor isn't as powerful as he'll eventually become?

He doesn't have the enchanted hammer and can't fly, but he's still the God of Thunder. It's not the hammer that allows him to be the God of Thunder. The hammer helps channel that and certainly makes him more powerful, but he's still a pretty sturdy opponent.

@dum529001: It is spelt Zeus and the Hulk isn't either. In any case a charachter that can never lose is boring. There should always be someone capable of beating the protaganist. The Hulk is a very powerful charachter, no one is arguing that he isn't, but to say he is in the same league as a Skyfather? In pure physical strength perhaps, but total power is another thing entirely. In any case there is no shame in losing to Zeus, even with Zeus holding back, the Hulk is one of the few who could survive what Zeus did to him, injured though he was afterwards. Just surviving is a testament to Hulks strength not an insult.

@jeanroygrant: If you mean creating the rivers then yes because it was current Thor who did that and he doesn't have the Odinforce at the moment.