@loplopool: Well, I don't appreciate or respect DBZ and it has nothing to do with me being a Marvel and DC fan. My main exposure is the animated show and I find it difficult to believe that the comic or manga can be that much different. But here are my reasons for hating it; poor writing, it's very gimmicky, bad animation, every villain after Frieza is extremely cookie cutter, not saying he's great but he's better than everyone who followed, most of the good guys are garbage, and speaking from the point of view of an anime fan, there are way too many shorter and more creative anime titles to watch than sit down and watch the same regurgitated storylines for more than 300 episodes. And yes, I'm including GT in that one. Dragon Ball was much better but it's no masterpiece and I do regret the time I spent on it.
@verotikryptonite: Oh and another thing, that little JLA vs. Avengers thing you referenced? Whatever you tried to hurl with that goes over my head completely because I skipped that crossover back then.
@verotikryptonite: I chuckle at guys like you too, because last I remember Odin punished Thor by putting him in the body of a cripple in order to teach him humility. Something Superman never had a problem with. And on other occasions, Thing has let his feelings get the better of him and perhaps things like that kept him from lifting the hammer. Who knows exactly what kept Thing from lifting Thor's hammer. But the bottle line is this: Odin gave the hammer to Thor as a gift, and he banished him for being a dick. Something Superman isn't. Chuckle over the toilet man.