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@Jet jaguar said:

monster fight!

WARNING: LOTS OF WORDS.

Kong is way too small in his standard form to even be a factor. At twenty five to fifty feet, he's not even big enough to come up to the hips of any of the other combatants at their smallest. Gamera's official mass from Daiei make him so ridiculously light for his size that he should be able to float like a Balloon, and even disregarding that Gamera has never been able to take as much punishment as Goji or Ultraman have. Gamera getting seriously hurt over the course of a movie is par the course, Godzilla sustaining injuries that do more than slow him down for a short while before his healing factor erases any damage done is so incredibly rare that you can count the number of incidents where this has happened with your hands. The number of times where his opponents have had him on the verge of death can be counted with your hands (And notably, only the various incarnations of King Ghidorah or Mechagodzilla have ever been able to bring the big G to death's door and before you say Mothra, Mothra usually BFRs or immobilizes Godzilla, she has never to date; caused him any serious harm.)

I'm not all that familiar with Ultraman, but if the others feel like using a composite of feats from various incarnations for Ultraman, Kong, and Gamera, I would point out that it would only be logical to do the same for Godzilla. And Godzilla's durability and healing factor feats include tanking a strategic nuclear missile to the face and taking no damage (he was made red-hot for a while, but that was about it, heck the Nuke in the IDW comics only made him *stronger*), Surviving exposure to absolute zero temperatures (albeit hampered by water), taking electricity which used to be a weakness and actually turning it into something that made him MORE POWERFUL, getting cut up by Gigan and then healing up by the next scene, getting corroded by Hedorah and then healing up by the next scene, getting more or less CHOPPED IN HALF WITH A DIAGONAL LASER HORN SWORD CUT FROM DESTROYAH and HEALING SO FAST THAT THE WOUND SEALED UP AS QUICKLY AS DESTROYAH COULD GO THROUGH HIM, Walking off missiles designed to go through his skin because he healed from them instantly anyway, getting a meteor to the face, receiving countless poundings and bouncing back, and the infamous "Black Hole? Pfft, bitch please." Feat.

He's also quite fast, he's tagged super or even hypersonic fliers repeatedly with his breath ray, when Kamacurus in final wars tried for an ambush tackle from a concealed spot (and it was invisible until it launched it's attack too!) Godzilla easily grabbed it by it's pincers and swung it in such a way that when he let the mantis go it impaled itself on a steel electric tower, he caught Komunga's webbing when it missed by a few feet and then hammer tossed the spider clear over the Horizon, he has actually fired his breath ray at the ground to use it like a jet and fly at supersonic speeds to run down a fleeing Hedorah, he has defied all laws of momentum and balance by running forward and then getting on his tail for a sliding drop kick that absolutely floored the guy he hit, and of course, his best speed feats come from Godzilla against Megaguirus. There is the incident where he ran so fast he became a blur, but that's not the most interesting feat in that film.

Throughout the whole fight with the Hypersonic speedster, Godzilla seemed content to allow Megaguirus to show him everything she was capable of, not really fighting at his full potential until she had exhausted her moveset. At first it seemed that Megaguirus was effortlessly speed blitzing Godzilla, but after Megaguirus played her final trump card (an energy draining thing that allowed her to shoot the same kind of energy that Godzilla can in the form of a massive fireball), he turned the tables ridiculously fast. He waited for Megaguirus to try and make another pass with her stinger to try and get some more energy from Godzilla, and then in mid charge, he realigned himself so his head would meet her stinger, one wrong move would mean that she'd impale through the roof of his mouth or skull, but he actually managed to catch Megaguirus' stinger with HIS TEETH, and then crushed it like it was so much paper mache.

Then when Megaguirus tried for another pass, he ducked down even as she motion blurred past him, bringing his razor sharp spines up and sliced one of her pincers clean off. Then he went up for a jumping tackle that took him at least two thousand feet in the air and slammed down on Megaguirus to destroy any remaining fighting ability from the bug, and when Megaguirus tried to flee; he casually tagged her with a breath ray shot and set her on fire. So while he may be a ground pounder, he is extremely swift and very skilled at fighting airborne opponents

And of course; Godzilla also has some lesser known powers, like the ability to randomly become a magnet so powerful it can rip Mechagodzilla; flying at supersonic speeds and at least a few miles away, right out of the sky and into his clutches where he tore Mecha-G's head off. Laser eye-beams and radioactive fireballs shot from his mouth. Being extremely proficient at melee combat with a highly sophisticated fighting style that takes full advantage of his body type. Or the ability to turn a former weakness into a power booster while being zapped with said weakness. Or the ability to no-sell an attempted grapple by developing the ability to use the energy reserved for his breath ray into an omnidirectional pulse from his body and force an enemy away while damaging them heavily, the aforementioned ability to fire a different kind of breath ray than usual in order to fly at amazing speeds, a seeming ability to take any energy directed at his spines and convert them into power for himself, and the ability to communicate IN PLAIN ENGLISH which indicates human level intelligence at least when there was no prior indication of him being able to do so. I think it wouldn't be too unreasonable to guess that Godzilla secretly has some kind of Doomsday style adaptation ability.

By contrast, Gamera's fireballs, while having great AOE damage, aren't all that great at putting down single, very tough opponents. This makes sense as Hesei Gamera was created to fight an enemy that liked to fight in swarms of relatively weak (by giant monster standards) but very fast opponents; the Gyaos. His best single target attack; the Mana-beam, takes forever and a half to charge, and Legion if I recall; had no real options for dodging (especially since Legion was ponderous as hell) or interrupting the attack available to her before she became an early victim of a "Shoop da whoop." Given Godzilla's shows of intelligence, he'd likely try to dodge or interrupt the Mana Beam before it could be fired off; or perhaps he could even outright tank it, given that it's only feat was vaporizing Legion. In close quarters, Gamera has the options of blades, but blades didn't stop Godzilla from handing Gigan his ass on a silver platter.

Nothing Gamera can do save for the Mana-beam has any real chance of putting down Godzilla permanently, and even the Mana-beam is HIGHLY debatable given that it has only ever had one showing against a Daiei monster that didn't strike me as having the durability to match most Toho beasts. Godzilla is very hard to hurt in the first place, and any damage Gamera can do will be overwhelmed by Godzilla's incredible healing factor, meanwhile even if Gamera can match Godzilla in a slug fest and projectile party (doubtful), Gamera is going to tire and accumulate injuries, Godzilla will be as fresh as when the battle began. But given Godzilla's better strength and durability feats as well as being ridiculously heavier, he's almost certainly going to beat down Gamera in short order.

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Englanders, traditional allies of Prussia, enemies of Germany.

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@roboadmiral said:

@Count Bleck said:

@roboadmiral said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@Doc_gametheory said:

Can someone explain why he cant beat them i know he is fast but hes not very strong or smart.

Because of Science:

Force = mass x acceleration

What this guy said^. His mass might not change but acceleration is kind of the Flash's whole deal.

According to relativity, his mass most certainly does change as he approaches the speed of light.

Fair enough, but I meant during a typical fight. It usual takes some very special circumstances for Flash to encroach on the speed of light.

Did they nerf him in New 52? Because last I knew of Wally, he hit lightspeed like it was nothing.

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@roboadmiral said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@Doc_gametheory said:

Can someone explain why he cant beat them i know he is fast but hes not very strong or smart.

Because of Science:

Force = mass x acceleration

What this guy said^. His mass might not change but acceleration is kind of the Flash's whole deal.

According to relativity, his mass most certainly does change as he approaches the speed of light.