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Luke wins. He's on a completely different power level. Guy is taking power says to the gut like nothing. Matt simply can't hurt him.

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When you use "peak human" as a standard in a debate you are pretty much assuming the the characters are bound to the rules of the real world, which is nonsense considering it is a fictional story

Yes.

Captain America is labeled by Marvel as peak human yet he's blatantly superhuman.

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"Peak human" is just a term invented by Marvel for their OHBOTMU. It has no place in battle boards and means nothing concrete. All that matters is what the character consistently does, and how they do against other opponents in the comics.

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Daredevil would win a majority solo. Team is overkill.

Punisher has managed to tag people faster than Cass, BTW.

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Son. Son. Karnak just chopped a bullet in half. With his fingers. Like it was nothing. That's on top of blowing things up with a touch, things being people's livers and extremities and steel doors. That's some Fist of the North Star stuff right there. He's stomping Cass.

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Team Marvel. Their overall skill is better (Steph is a weak link) and Morse is a flat-out superhuman since her resurrection.

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Cap destroys him. Not even close.

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#7  Edited By Cochise

@cable_extreme: It does though. She can't read Slade.

Yes, she says so. She also says he's faster than her. Two separate things. And there is NOTHING to suggest that her not being able to read his movements somehow shatters her confidence to the point that she can't tell if someone is faster than her or not.

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#8  Edited By Cochise

@cochise: Its questionable. She can't beat Slade in a fight because she can't read him, that's why she THINKS he's faster.

@cable_extreme: What Jashro said. She relies on her body reading in fights, without it, she loses confidence. Slade negates that ability, she loses confidence when fighting Slade. I'm not taking away anything from her speed, she's still the fastest cat here.

There's literally no reason to think this is the case.

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@cable_extreme: What makes me think what? The fact that Cassie THINKS Slade is faster? I've already tried to explain my reasoning. Its because she can't read Slade. Slade's fast, but Cassie (by feats) is faster.

Why would Batgirl be wrong about her estimation of Slade's speed? She's not a moron. She explicitly says that he's faster than her, IN ADDITION to saying she can't read him.

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Wolverine also has enhanced resistance to nerve strikes, as conclusively demonstrated in Frank Miller's mini, where he endured numerous nerve strikes that would kill a normal human, and which only caused him pain.