@soupnazi: Didn't mean to come off as creepy :( I was only trying to illustrate the point that on of the things that makes her Carol Danvers is her sexual appeal (not her DEFINING point, but a very legitimate one) and that drawing her in a way that makes her look like a balloon animal isn't true to the character. Similar to hiring a different actor to play the same character in a movie. It just doesn't feel right and disconnects the audience from the experience.
Ms Marvel's been a favorite character of mine for a very long time. She's ambitious, determined, stands up for herself, is able to make correct snap judgements and is a strong independent woman in a realm mostly filled with men. Hulk, Thor, Hurcules, Doctor Doom, Ironman, Sentry, Nova, etc, etc. She's one of FEW female characters that is on a similar power scale (okay, maybe not Sentry. lol) and I loved that about her. Wasp, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Spider-woman, etc aren't even close but are still sexy. The fact that she is also sexy doesn't mean that I am a creepy dude that ONLY reads books with sexy females in them. It was these traits that brought me to the comic in the first place, and the beautiful artwork just added to the experience. There are many many many alternatives out there for people interested in being "creepy dudes".
The Carol Danvers I know wouldn't be in denial about her health condition. In fact previously when she lost her powers, or gained them again she would spend ages in the lab with Beast trying to figure out what was wrong with her. She hated not being able to fly the X-Men into space, but realised the right course of action was to figure out what was wrong with her. In Project Ascension she didn't have that luxury because time was of the essence. If she stopped running, investigating and fighting Norman Osborn would've become unstoppable just as he was planning his attack on Asguard. Again, she made the right call to do what was right in that moment. In Captain Marvel she's purposefully ignoring the symptoms, being stubborn and hoping it all goes away. This shows weakness of character, not strength.
It seems clear to me that this person is NOT Carol Danvers. She doesn't act like her, she doesn't think like her, talk like her, have her same powers or look like her.
Also, I never said the new comics were horrible or that I hated them. I just don't want to read this series and I loved the old ones. I'm loving the Superior Spider-Man series as well as Age of Ultron and going back and reading some old classics. I just CHOOSE not to spend my money on something I think is damaging the franchise that is Carol Danvers. You remember that long period when Spider-Man wasn't Peter Parker and it was a clone and he did all kinds of things that made you not like him as a character? I didn't buy those either after reading the first few. I didn't like the Star Wars Prequels or the Matrix sequels either. Same reasons.
I am really glad that you're enjoying the series. I hope you continue to enjoy it, and I also appreciate that you took the time to reply to my rant (as this topic is very important to me). My reply was just giving some "quantified reasons" why someone might not enjoy the series. Hope I seem less creepy now! lol
Seriously, guys, not liking the new series is fine, but fans of the series might actually like to discuss it without every other post being "I don't like this." If you're not going to quantify your negative opinions so as to start discussion, you're just being rude.
I wish to clarify a few things before I get to my rant. I agree with @soupnazi completely here. Just saying, "you don't like something" without explaining why you do not like it means you're just leaving a comment to justify your own feelings and are not contributing in any way to the conversation. You are entitled to your opinions, but they are just that. Opinions, not problems.
So to follow this up with some problems I have noticed with the Captain Marvel title (rather than the Ms Marvel title).
After the House of M storyline, Carol Danvers awoke with a desire to be "The Best of the Best". From that point she fought off hundreds of Skrulls on the streets of New York City protecting the people of the city; she formed her own group under S.H.I.E.L.D to try and hunt down A.I.M groups that had gotten out of control, she sacrificed her life to stop Norman Osborn from acquiring Ascension, She led the Avengers, she fought the Phoenix and of course, dated Spider-man like she promised. Now she's walking kids home and taking Chewie to the vet.
Tony Stark made her an indestructible fabric sash that's able to suffocate the Absorbing Man (Captain Marvel #1). Let's, just for a second ignore the fact that there is probably some danger in letting Absorbing Man TOUCH indestructible material, or that choking a man made completely out of rock might not work at all. Instead we'll focus on the fact that Ms Marvel's energy based costume changing power has been with her since day one. She is able to change from her current costume into her "civvies" in a moments notice. Her costume is just an energy projection that behaves like normal clothes. As a long time Ms Marvel fan just having to take 5 seconds to process the idea that she converts her current clothes to her Captain Marvel outfit, but still keeps the red sash was a bad move from a writing perspective. Also... Tony Stark isn't really known for making cloth... more the high tech stuff like armor and flying aides (we'll come back to that one later).
Ms Marvel was able to absorb energy and project it back at people. She was also able to convert energy into a substitute for oxygen (allowing her to go into space for extended periods of time). If she hadn't absorbed any energy, she couldn't breathe in space and the energy she could throw around was not as powerful. That's it. That's all her energy absorbing abilities ever did. Her indestructibility and super-strength are always on. Yet in Captain Marvel #10 we see her absorb energy from the train tracks because she can't lift a train carriage without it. Just a quick reminder, Carol Danvers has a strength comparable to the Hulk and Thor. If she required energy to absorb in order to have that level of strength previously, she'd be long dead.
Captain Marvel and Captain Marvel team up to defeat an underwater transformer robot thing. I face-palmed in this issue and ranted to my roommate for a few hours on this one; but I'll save you guys the long version. If Carol Danvers is taking over the name Captain Marvel and there is already someone named Captain Marvel, probably not a good move to point out the massive screw-up to everyone reading the title. Even worse to have them do some kind of weird combo-our-powers-in-a-way-that-does-not-work way to defeat something way below their pay-grade. Ms Marvel just finished fighting the Phoenix in space and meeting a resurrected Captain Marvel on the Kree home world. She then gets sucked back in time. Then acknowledges to "a friend" that she stole her name without permission and for no reason apart from, "Cap thought it'd be a good idea".
Carol Danvers has an anomaly in her brain. NO SHE DOESN'T. I am not going to talk about her indestructibility or her healing-factor here. No no. These obvious and glaring problems need not distract from the bigger problem here. The bigger problem is the Storyteller brains from War of the Marvels. Some of you newer readers who are just picking up this new title probably have no idea what I'm talking about, so let me clarify. Short version of the story is that prior to the Dark Reign storylines Carol Danvers started to lose control of her powers. Using her powers was killing her. But she needed to stop the bad guy, cause that is what she does. So she saves the day but dies in the process. A character named the Storyteller (a small child with the ability to create anything her reads or imagines) was saved by Ms Marvel. He also read about her adventures in space as Binary, worshiped her as his favorite hero, etc, etc. This boy was cloned and jarred as small brains for Advanced Idea Mechanics to use to create their own world, but in doing so the brains cried out for Ms Marvel to save him. Due to the nature of the Storyteller powers, he resurrected/recreated Ms Marvel as he imagined and remembered her. More powerful than she was before, but with the same memories and such. My point being, I doubt very much that this kid decided to recreate Carol with an anomaly in her brain. If new information comes out in future issues about someone using a ray or something to create it in her... please look back to my healing-factor and indestructibility notes.
Some powers make her head hurt, others don't? She's not allowed to fly because it hurts her brain and might kill her, fair enough. But lifting the subway car hurt her too and she didn't fly there. Was it the absorbing electricity bit? Does her being indestructible ALL THE TIME hurt her head? If not, why not?
Captain America gives her a flying motorcycle. First of all... You're getting your sewing done by Tony Stark and you're getting your flying aides given to you buy the guy from World War II. Switch those two around!!! Get Tony Stark to make you a freaking repulsor backpack or SOMETHING. He hacked your phone to get your attention and he hand-picked you to lead the Avengers (Mighty Avengers #1). Also YOU'RE A PILOT!!! Go talk to Colonel Rhodes about some gear to help.The flying motorcycle is just stupid for Carol. She likes going a lot faster than that.
While you're at it, go talk to Beast, Hank Pym, Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Stephen Strange or The Storyteller about fixing the thing in your brain!
Dinosaurs for no reason. Hey, just a quick note: you were thrown back in time for reasons you don't understand and now you're fighting dinosaurs in New York City for reasons you never bother to investigate. Perhaps you should go talk to someone about space-time continuum stuff. No? you'd rather take your cat to the vet? Okay. At least you have your priorities sorted. This might've been the warning people needed to stop the Age of Ultron. You know, the series you are dead in?
Helmet? No Helmet? Spiked Hair? Flowing Hair? Pick one. I don't mind the idea that she's decided to style it in different ways, with all the spare time she has NOT saving the world and chatting with neighbors. But I don't think her hair changing length is really going to help people with recognizing her. I don't have a problem with her wearing a helmet either. Just pick one and stop swapping.
Andrade's art work. Nothing against the guy, but please just leave my favorite character alone. I am sure that there are many people out there that love this style of art and there is probably a market for comics drawn in this fashion. But Carol Danvers didn't get to her level of popularity by looking like that. She is an INCREDIBLY SEXY drawn character. She is beautiful, she has an amazing fantasy body, the look in her eyes is as meaningful as the arc of the punch she is throwing. Comic books are a VISUAL MEDIUM. We pick up a comic because of how it looks. If you're looking for a sexy super-heroine, you're not going to find it in this book. In this book you're going to find an expressionist interpretation of Aeon Flux after a stroke who lost their fingers in an unfortunate smelting accident. I'm only half kidding there. In some shots she doesn't even have hands! After a few Andrade's issues I am relieved to see she still has a nose.
These issues I have raised could all be solved by one simple thing. Changing the character's name from Carol Danvers to anything else. Let's call her Lana Lane and just pretend that Carol Danvers is still on the Kree home world. That's a lot easier to believe than anything that's happened so far.
TL;DR: Stark fabric, Flying motorcycle, powers not working correctly, no possible way she could have a brain issue, looks different issue to issue and the artwork has no place in a Carol Danvers comic.
I created an account here to post this comment. I have a lot of patience, but when you collect your favorite comic character's stories for years and years and suddenly she starts to not make sense, look completely different and inspire nothing that drew you to it in the first place it is time to put the character to rest. I have stopped collecting Captain Marvel, effective immediately.
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