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#1  Edited By CJStriker

I have the HIGHEST Respect for both of these Heroes, would be an Epic Battle Indeed. I can not say who would win, might end in a Tie most likely!

But Really, why should they Fight one another, when they can be The Ultimate Superhero Team!!!!! =D

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@JohnnyGat said:

@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@XsPectre28: you forgot cyclops- killing xavier

anyways, i heard the life seed force possessed wanda making her not responsible for her crimes and it was dr doom causing no more mutants....i think its a marvel writers cop out......i blame marvel

Cyclops is currently in Prison so technically he's being charged for his crimes already as opposed to those that are at least in terms of being charged got away without punishment. As far as Scarlet Witch is concerned, I read Children's Crusade the justification with Scarlet Witch by Cap as to why she's free is that she had just lost her children and is not in the right state of mind plus the whole Life Force thing. But even then it's basically applicable to what Scott was experiencing given his role as the guy leading the mutants, the schism where some friends were leaving, the death of friends and family as well as being constantly hounded by anti-mutant extremists. Than you have the Avengers constantly saying how it is impossible to control the PF so you have the two things that they used to justify Wanda's freedom. A crisis that would heavily affect a persons emotion and being under the influence of a greater force than themselves.

Good Post their My Friend, but what happen in the P5 and Summers in AvX is in Different Comparison to what happened to Wanda in Disassemble and HoM.

Wanda:

She Got the "Life Force Entity" all at once, 100% of it by accident like it it explained in Children's Crusade.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/owie/questions-about-scarlet-witchs-power-in-childrens-crusade-avx/87-83185/

What this means is that Wanda got TOTALLY Possessed and when that happens like with Jean Grey (the Phoenix Prof. X (Shadow king, Onslaught) Wolverine, Gambit, Psyloke (Horsemen of the Apocalypse), Hal Jordan (The Parallax Enity), it Always ends up with the Invading Entity taking Total Control of the person being Possessed. For Wanda it shouldn't be "cause it was about her Kids", but why she is more likely innocent cause "100% of an Entity Possessing you means total Control" meaning she was a puppet getting all her emotion, no matter how small, increased to 1,000x the Bad.

P5 and Scott Summers:

I believe the same could be said for them as well, that the Phoenix force took control of them, and made them not themselves. However, the only Problem with that is that 5 people where Possessed by a 1 Entity Split in 5, so each of the P5 got 20% of the Phoenix Force, so the Total Control argument goes out the window until we get to AvX #12 and him Going Dark. But still, even with only 20%, a case can still be made it was the Enity that drove them to do the things they did, but thier is One Major Flaw beside only having 20%.

The Utopia Community Back the P5 horse and Said they had Complete control of the Power and the P5 said the Same things about them as well!

With this all of their Actions from AvX #6 to #8, and all the side stories as well included, would have to take that fact of having Sanity and Judgement Into account.

That could not be the Case for Wanda in HoM or Scott Summer in AvX #12.

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@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@XsPectre28: you forgot cyclops- killing xavier

anyways, i heard the life seed force possessed wanda making her not responsible for her crimes and it was dr doom causing no more mutants....i think its a marvel writers cop out......i blame marvel

Guess you can Say "Speak of the Devil" LOL, hey Hope! =)

Really in the Context of Everything, Scarlet Witch has already Payed Heavily for what happen, if she ever needed to pay at all.

First off, just by Real Life time frame, Wanda has had one of the longest "Hero Went Bad but not much Context Given" Time periods, or aka EXILE from the Marvel U. than any other hero know, or a Hero of this Importance (Wanda has been in Exile for Almost a DECADE!). She has also in the Comic book World Sense been in Exile as well too, not being in ANY major Marvel Events or Stories, and be banded from places she may call home (AvX #0, when Vision Banned Wanda from coming to the Mansion when Ms. Marvel & Spider-Women want to bring her back).

Also, the Idea of Jail or a Trail on the Standards of our or the World's Laws would be pretty hard to do. Most of the people that where Killed during HoM are alive, the Mutants are back and the power that lead to all of this is GONE (will explain that Shortly). So, in the courts or Groups who Might then deal with kind of stuff, in Children's Crusade by the end of it Cyclops who could and wanted to put Wanda on a Utopia Trial (Would of been more like a Kangaroo Court!) at the end decide to let Wanda Go since she was not a threat anymore, there by ending any Mutant Justice Trial since Summers was the leader of Most Mutants at that time.

As for the Avengers, it also would be hard to judge by human law as well, since most of all of HoM happen on a Magical Plain Level and now has been fixed.

But the Ultimate Reason why she would might be mostly if not all innocent of the Events is this:

What REALLY Happended to Wanda, and the Avengers Now KNOW this is that Wanda got Fully, 100% Possessed by an Entity called "The Life Force" that made her do all those bad things, that was explained if you read Children's Crusade. This is the exact same kind of story as Jean Grey (Dark Phoenix), Charles X. (Shadow King, Onslaught), Hal Jordan (Parallax Entity) and more. Here is a link that has the info strait from the comic:

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/owie...-avx/87-83185/

You can also Fined More info at this link too:

http://www.craveonline.com/comics/reviews/164643-review-avengers-the-childrens-crusade-5

If you have any more questions let me know, Thank you. =)

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@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@x_29: all im saying is if scott goes to jail shouldnt the scarlet witch pay for her crimes or should she get off scot free because shes an avenger and captain america doesnt want any avengers to look bad

@BlackArmor: @AgeofHurricane:

Hello, Glad to Talk to you Again HopeSummers. =)

Really in the Context of Everything, Scarlet Witch has already Payed Heavily for what happen, if she ever needed to pay at all.

First off, just by Real Life time frame, Wanda has had one of the longest "Hero Went Bad but not much Context Given" Time periods, or aka EXILE from the Marvel U. than any other hero know, or a Hero of this Importance (Wanda has been in Exile for Almost a DECADE!). She has also in the Comic book World Sense been in Exile as well too, not being in ANY major Marvel Events or Stories, and be banded from places she may call home (AvX #0, when Vision Banned Wanda from coming to the Mansion when Ms. Marvel & Spider-Women want to bring her back).

Also, the Idea of Jail or a Trail on the Standards of our or the World's Laws would be pretty hard to do. Most of the people that where Killed during HoM are alive, the Mutants are back and the power that lead to all of this is GONE (will explain that Shortly). So, in the courts or Groups who Might then deal with kind of stuff, in Children's Crusade by the end of it Cyclops who could and wanted to put Wanda on a Utopia Trial (Would of been more like a Kangaroo Court!) at the end decide to let Wanda Go since she was not a threat anymore, there by ending any Mutant Justice Trial since Summers was the leader of Most Mutants at that time.

As for the Avengers, it also would be hard to judge by human law as well, since most of all of HoM happen on a Magical Plain Level and now has been fixed.

But the Ultimate Reason why she would might be mostly if not all innocent of the Events is this:

What REALLY Happended to Wanda, and the Avengers Now KNOW this is that Wanda got Fully, 100% Possessed by an Entity called "The Life Force" that made her do all those bad things, that was explained if you read Children's Crusade. This is the exact same kind of story as Jean Grey (Dark Phoenix), Charles X. (Shadow King, Onslaught), Hal Jordan (Parallax Entity) and more. Here is a link that has the info strait from the comic:

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/owie...-avx/87-83185/

You can also Fined More info at this link too:

http://www.craveonline.com/comics/reviews/164643-review-avengers-the-childrens-crusade-5

If you have any more questions let me know, Thank you. =)

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@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@CJStriker: is that why wanda is not in jail because captain america has a crush on her???

Hello HopesummersFORtheFUTURE, Nice to Meet you. =)

Not at all. Capt Figured it out with the Facts:

What happens to Wanda was a Freak Accident that could fall any hero at anytime. Wanda was 100% Possessed by the "Life Force Entity , the Entity was the one that drove Wanda to do the bad things, so badly she might as well been a Puppet with Strings. This is explained if you read Children's Crusade. This is the exact same kind of story of Possessions in Comics making good Heroes go Horribly BAD as Jean Grey (Dark Phoenix), Charles X. (Shadow King, Onslaught), Hal Jordan (Parallax Entity) and more. Here is a link that has the info strait from the comic:

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/owie...-avx/87-83185/

Thanks for your Question. =)

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#6  Edited By CJStriker

Wanda Maximoff, The Scarlet Witch, Back in Action!!! =)

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@TheCrowbar said:

@CJStriker:

I did a search couldn't find anything on this "Life Force Entity" can you link a wiki or something?

Edit: Just found it.

I wish Marvel was atleast honest with its stupid ass retcons.

Honestly my Friend this is what REALLY STEAMS me about Marvel the Past Few years, no appreciation for Character history at all.

What I learned from all this Dissemble Garbage is that WAY before Wanda made piece with her children'S death, but when the new Writers, Bendis included came in they "Cherry Pick" info from her past and a WHOLE NEW THING that made her "Suppress" the death of her children for now reason even enplaned? REALLY?!?!, that is what I learned, and I have THIS to backed it up with:

http://www.craveonline.com/comics/reviews/164643-review-avengers-the-childrens-crusade-5

Tell me what you think?

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@Daycrawler: Well that shows your level of Knowledge about what really happened to Wanda, here's an idea, go Read Children's Crusade and then make your comment please.

If you read that then you know the FACT that Wanda was POSSESSED by an Entity, The Life Force and that what led to all of this Stupid Garbage. Same Story as Jean Grey (Dark Phoenix), Charles X. (Shadow King, Onslaught), Hal Jordan (Parallax Entity) and more. So Calling Wanda on her "sh.." is really lame, cause I guess Hope never Got the memo on What really happen to Wanda? WOW a Teenage not pay Attention, what a Surprise! =O

So you want to call out the "sh.." on M-day, go talk to The Life Force Entity, I am sure it will leave you with a lasting impression like Parallax did to Hal Jordan.

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#9  Edited By CJStriker

Now that Uncanny Avengers is Starting I am hoping Since both Scarlet Witch and Captain America are on the Same team they will get back together,

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I have a VERY High Option of Scarlet Witch Right now. After all she has been threw, she still works to Save the world and correct the problems of the world by helping Hope destroy the Phoenix and Create More Mutants.

Oh and for the HoM story she was Possessed by the Life Force explained in Children's Crusade and it was the Entity that used her like a Puppet. It was like getting 100% of the Phoenix force all at once!

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